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02-09-2015, 01:53 AM
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The misinformation in this thread is amazing.
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02-09-2015, 02:15 AM
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Registered User
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Dual pane windows are great for for homes that stay still. RVs flex going down the highway and is a cause many double pane windows crack their seal and fog. Repair costs can mount up over time.
I don't have double pane windows on my car or truck, but then I don't make it a habit of sleeping in them.
To each his own,-
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02-09-2015, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyFitz...
The misinformation in this thread is amazing.
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Which misinformation is that?
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02-09-2015, 08:24 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyFitz...
The misinformation in this thread is amazing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
Which misinformation is that?
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MSHappyCampers
That's a good question. 
Mel
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02-09-2015, 08:46 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Dual pane windows:
No steam dripping down the windows.
Quieter in regard to noises from outside.
Cooler/warmer inside depending on outside temperature.
I will never buy another RV without them.
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02-09-2015, 04:02 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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The OP posted this same question on RV.NET....over there it got nasty as posts usually do. As dual and triple pane windows became the norm for better insulating houses and keeping them quieter, the technology moved into the RV market.
The opinion from both forums boiled down to the same thing. Those that have dual panes realize the value and will always buy dual pane. Those without prove that human nature affects most opinions. People who don't have them will justify why they don't need them or won't have them.
For those who don't like them....does that mean you don't /won't have them in your house?
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02-09-2015, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member
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How Important is Double Pane Windows? (Jaycee Precept 31UL & others)
We had both and dual pane is the way to go. I bought a piece of this foil faced bubble wrap and cut to fit the windshield and drivers side window. It made a real difference in temperature change. http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...l-4-x-10/69061
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02-09-2015, 04:46 PM
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FWIW 2 bits of misinformation:
1. Double pane windshield. Laminated glass is not the same as thermal double pane. It's two layers but the only added insulation value is the sheet of plastic in the middle. Henry figured it out and had it in his vehicles by 1929. ;-)
2. Vacuum between panes. The between pane space if filled with dry air or gas and sealed. The problems are the noble gas's all migrate out through the seals while moisture migrates in. Once the moisture gets in fogging can occur.
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02-09-2015, 04:47 PM
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As I recall from my time working for Dupont, windshields are laminated with a product between layers called Butacite. This keeps the glass from shattering into large shards and makes the windshield much safer in collisions.
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02-09-2015, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles16
As I recall from my time working for Dupont, windshields are laminated with a product between layers called Butacite. This keeps the glass from shattering into large shards and makes the windshield much safer in collisions.
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I believe that's strictly for safety, not for insulation, right?
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02-09-2015, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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dual pane sliders are better than single pane sliders but they both leak air, sometimes a lot of air.
Thats why I think the frameless are better, they fully seal on a bulb type seal and wont leak air. They also dont have aluminum frames that nearly cancel the insulating value of the dual pane, and they dont depend on a felt strip or rubber wiper to seal them against air leaks.
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02-09-2015, 04:55 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bailiff
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I bought silver bubble wrap at home depot, and instead of lining thge inside of the windshield with it, I put it on the outside of the windshield and let the windshield cover hold it on. The difference in heat (and cold) on the windshield was like night and day when I did that.
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02-09-2015, 04:55 PM
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Member
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Location: Thunder Bay ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
I believe that's strictly for safety, not for insulation, right?
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I believe that the only insulating factor may be from the tinting of the window not from the lamination...jmho
Bernie
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02-09-2015, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nothermark
FWIW 2 bits of misinformation:
2. Vacuum between panes. The between pane space if filled with dry air or gas and sealed. The problems are the noble gas's all migrate out through the seals while moisture migrates in. Once the moisture gets in fogging can occur.
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I am unaware of any RV windows that have a vacuum or an inert gas between panes ... they use dehumidified air as well as a desiccant that is in the spacer between the panes. The fogging that sometimes occurs is due to the seal breaking and the desiccant becomes overloaded by moist air.
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