How many ft/lbs to remove lugnuts?

[Jzack]

The neat thing about the Milwaukee Electric Impact is they claim it eliminates the need for an expensive 500ft/lb torque wrench. At least that's how I might sell the idea to the DW for Fathers Day.

[racer26]

How about this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

[Dav L]

Originally Posted by racer26

How about this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

that shows you the torque, but doesn't apply it Still need a torque multiplier or long arm breaker bar. But that tool is almost essential to use a torque multiplier for tightening.

[Rodg495]

I've used the" torque multiplier wrench" like the ones Northern Tool sells. It works great for removing the nuts. I used it to reapply 350 to 400 ft/lbs in order to drive it to as shop and have them torqued properly. Sadly you can only guess as to the torque being applied because the mechanical advantage is something like 85:1. I'm a fan.

[yeloduster]

I bought one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Goplus-Impact...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
and one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Sunex-5335TE-...3&sr=8-1-fkmr1

Note: My air hoses are 1/4". That has to reduce the torque some. I had to buy a 1/4" air inlet because it came with a 1/2" size not compatible with my hose.

My little inexpensive air compressor that I carry in a cargo bay makes 120 lbs pressure and can remove one lug before it needs to pump back up. The big compressor in my garage takes them all off. No problem. Make sure you have 120 PSI when you use the torque stick to get the torque correct.

It is heavy to hold but doesn't require any effort to remove and install the lugs and set the torque to 475 LB/FT.

I wonder if the electric has enough battery to do all eight or ten before it needs a recharge? My 80 gallon compressor in the garage kicks in before I can get 8 lugs off.

[GypsyR]

I use the big Milwaukee 1/2" electric impact all day long five days a week and recharge/swap batteries about once a week. I'm not in tire service though, I expect those guys use more juice. My current 5.0 AH battery pack I would estimate would take all your wheel off and put them back on at least twice before the charge goes low. My heavy 12 AH battery would probably do a few class A's before getting warm. These new lithium batteries are still amazing me.
The batteries have a four bar scale on them. When I first got the gun I took all the wheels off a passenger car and then reinstalled them. Pressed the button and the battery still registered full. Had I more time I might have kept on doing lugnuts until it finally registered that the battery had used some charge. But I had no real need to know. And am not all THAT energetic these days.

Big honking impact, they also sell a 3/4" drive one but it's the same body. Not a tool you want if you have problems with arm strength. Arthritis, carpal tunnel, stuff light that. It will work you out.

[andy29847]

1/2" sockets, breaker bars, etc are good to 350 ft pounds. You need at least 3/4" tools for 22.5" wheels. The tire shops I have been to all use 1" tools.
Getting the lug nuts on and off is just the start. Mounting and dismounting the wheels is serious work too. My roadblock has been jacks and jack stands for heavy duty work. I bought a torque multiplier (4 to 1) and a couple of pipes to slip on over my tools so I can take the lug nuts off.

If a traditional sized, pistol grip, battery operated, impact wrench is strong enough to remove the lug nuts from 22.5" wheels, then you better be in a good position and have a solid grip on the tool before you press that trigger. A impact tool that strong will wind you up.

Here is a thread I started when I bought my torque multiplier.

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f104/lug...rk-442688.html

[GypsyR]

" A impact tool that strong will wind you up" Yessir, it does. There are Youtube videos of people demonstrating the ability to remove semi truck lugnuts with the 1/2" version. As above, there is also a 3/4' drive version. We have a 3/4" Ingersoll air impact in the shop. Last year the Milwaukee 1/2" battery powered one pulled a harmonic balancer bolt the 3/4" couldn't and the Ingersoll couldn't. The Ingersoll has been gathering dust since.
After trying out mine, my boss bought one. A friend who drives a wrecker and does road service borrowed mine for a little while and then he went and bought one too. It's a pretty impressive tool.

[GOLDWINGER2]

I have the HF EARTHQUAKE. I love it. Works great on 40 foot Bluebird and Thomas busses. On my P30....like butter baby.
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[Damion]

Originally Posted by Jzack

This is what I'm talking about-

I have the very same impact, works great but won't break 22.5" wheels that were torqued to 450 ft. Lbs.
I break them with Torque Multiplier then the impact works great! This link is 58:1 but the one I have is 64:1. so 10 lbs of pressure on the crank gives me 640 ft. lbs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Torque-Mult...QAAOSwbqBeltW~

[Jzack]

Originally Posted by Damion

I have the very same impact, works great but won't break 22.5" wheels that were torqued to 450 ft/lbs

Ok, that impact is rated at 1,100ft/lbs. Milwaukee also makes a 1,400ft/lbs version. Maybe that's the impact Gypsy is talking about? Here it is-

[Fugitive861]

I have this Milwaukee 1/2 impact gun and it can remove my 19.5 inch wheels with ease. The torque on my wheels are only 175 lbs and use a torque wrench about 3-4 feet long, without a multiplier. I have more difficulty getting the heavy wheel off of the hub then dealing with the lug nuts.


https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...BoC3l0QAvD_BwE

[Tbrownski]

I lubed and torqued my 33mm lug nuts to 450ft lbs and tried to remove them with my 650ftlb rated kobalt impact, got 1 out of 10 to break loose. I use a 40” 3/4 breaker bar to break them loose and then the impact. But they’re not rusty and I’m 220lbs. I’d get a torque multiplier to break them loose consistently...

[the4quads]

How about this Milwaukee. One inch drive and up to 1800 lbs/ft torque.
Milwaukee 2867-20 M18 Fuel 1" High Torque Impact Wrench. The 1/2 one does get the 22.5" lugs off but it's working hard. I'm just waiting for a good price. I do carry one of those cheap 58:1 torque multipliers to crack them loose. I use a four foot dial type torque wrench to tighten them. Problem is it that's two to do it. My wife watches the dial while I lean on it. The newest addition to the tool box is a real X-4 Snap-On torque multiplier (Used). 500 in equals 2000 out. There is some frictional drag but it maxes out at 15% at 2000 output. Based on what I've read, 6% loss the range I'm working with. I figure around 125 lbs/ft in (with a 1/2" torque wrench) will be around 475.