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10-04-2018, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Prince William, VA
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Originally Posted by univmd
The MVA can be very frustrating, most people who work there have no idea about this RV license test. Some asked if I was a school bus driver or fire truck driver.
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Oh man, that's exactly what they said when I asked them about the process to get a Non-Commercial Class B license.
Thanks for the offer to help. I'll DM you shortly.
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10-04-2018, 11:30 AM
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Senior Member
Solo Rvers Club Appalachian Campers Forest River Owners Club Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bath, NC
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Originally Posted by papa&susu
You are correct no cdl. Commercial drivers license Must have medical endorsement
Ok now
A NCL license is required
Non commercial license
No medical
Ncdl. A. And B
26000plus one pound
Must have one or the other
A let’s you tow over 10000lb
B up to 10000 lb
I have ncdl class b
Ncdmv can help you sort it out
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Are you 100% sure? I will have to look into that when the time comes. I know several guys with enclosed car trailers with living quarters that had their trailers re titled as RV instead of trailers to keep from having to adhere to DMV rule.
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10-04-2018, 11:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 4,920
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Originally Posted by Flagstaff206
Are you 100% sure? I will have to look into that when the time comes. I know several guys with enclosed car trailers with living quarters that had their trailers re titled as RV instead of trailers to keep from having to adhere to DMV rule.
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The class of license required is determined by the combined weight of the vehicle, its cargo & accessories and any towed trailer & contents.
Some states do not require a B or A class license for RVs, but *most* do, when the combined weight exceeds 26,000 lbs. The state of residence of the drivers you refer to may be one of the exceptions.
The difference between a CDL A or B, and non-CDL licenses of the same class are mostly related to hours of service (no restrictions, usually) and that you cannot haul hazardous materials, and that you cannot drive for "commerce" meaning you can't be hauling other peoples property, or receive compensation for driving, or using the vehicle to the furtherance of commerce (like selling crafts full time at fairs and carnivals, for example). Getting a CDL also requires a USDOT driver health evaluation every 2 years or less (based on the doctor's evaluation).
Again, the requirements for a Class A or B license is based on the placarded weight capacity of the vehicle; the commercial aspect determines if you need a CDL or regular A or B license - and those requirements are set by the state that one resides in for the purpose of having a DL.
Bad info dies hard...
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10-04-2018, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa&susu
You are correct no cdl. Commercial drivers license Must have medical endorsement
Ok now
A NCL license is required
Non commercial license
No medical
Ncdl. A. And B
26000plus one pound
Must have one or the other
A let’s you tow over 10000lb
B up to 10000 lb
I have ncdl class b
Ncdmv can help you sort it out
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I agree with the above except that not all DMV folks can sort it out for you. The CDL manual is a little vague on the question in my opinion as well. However, if you read the laws, Papa&susu is correct. Please look at the NCDMV CDL Handbook, Section 1.8 Exemptions. I have attached a page from the manual for your review.
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10-04-2018, 12:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Got a So Dakota liscense. No special requirements except for my motorcycle endorsement.
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10-04-2018, 01:07 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Leander Texas
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I think the CDL & Class A are being mixed up. A CDL is for Commercial truck driving, Class A is for driving & towing a larger than normal vehicle such as motor homes. Class of DL will be based on length, size and weight of vehicle you will be driving. So you can have a class B CDL or a Class B drivers License and same goes for Class A CDL or Class A license. Primary difference would be are you getting paid to drive vehicle or is it a private not for hire vehicle that would determine CDL or none CDL. But you would still legally be required to posses proper Class license for vehicle being driven. Hope this helps. I know not all the states are the same, but it is better to have correct license than to get harassed or ticketed. Plus you should have the proper training when driving these larger vehicles. I dont want you putting my wife's or my life at stake because you were unaware of how to handle your vehicle.
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10-04-2018, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Prince William, VA
Posts: 345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skelly65
I dont want you putting my wife's or my life at stake because you were unaware of how to handle your vehicle.
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+1 on that
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10-04-2018, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXTiger
Got a So Dakota liscense. No special requirements except for my motorcycle endorsement.
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Exactly..I plan on changing to SD domicile and changing my license to there...no noncommercial license class as far as Ive been able to determine (as says in their cdl manual preface) I do have a MC endorsement but thats not a problem as they carry that over
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10-04-2018, 03:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tucson
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In Arizona no special licensing is required for any size RV by state law. I work for an RV dealer who requires a Class B CDL. I got the learner's permit by passing the 50 question general written test and the 25 question written air brake test. I also had to submit an original SSAN card and have a DOT approved medical exam completed.
When it came time to get the actual CDL, I went to a truck driving school and spent 4 hours and $360. When I was done I had a CDL. I used their 30' box truck with a six speed for the test. I did a pre-trip inspection of the entire truck and a special air brake test prior to the driving test.
Over all it wasn't too difficult but knowing all the steps to test the air brakes required some memorization. A Non CDL is similar but not as detailed as a CDL
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10-04-2018, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member
Solo Rvers Club Appalachian Campers Forest River Owners Club Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bath, NC
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_RV_Guy
The class of license required is determined by the combined weight of the vehicle, its cargo & accessories and any towed trailer & contents.
Some states do not require a B or A class license for RVs, but *most* do, when the combined weight exceeds 26,000 lbs. The state of residence of the drivers you refer to may be one of the exceptions.
The difference between a CDL A or B, and non-CDL licenses of the same class are mostly related to hours of service (no restrictions, usually) and that you cannot haul hazardous materials, and that you cannot drive for "commerce" meaning you can't be hauling other peoples property, or receive compensation for driving, or using the vehicle to the furtherance of commerce (like selling crafts full time at fairs and carnivals, for example). Getting a CDL also requires a USDOT driver health evaluation every 2 years or less (based on the doctor's evaluation).
Again, the requirements for a Class A or B license is based on the placarded weight capacity of the vehicle; the commercial aspect determines if you need a CDL or regular A or B license - and those requirements are set by the state that one resides in for the purpose of having a DL.
Bad info dies hard...
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I realized the difference in classes etc. I was however under the impression/knowledge that RV were exempt from this. I imagine finding a DMV office that has a clue will be fun. Never could answer my questions on towing large boats or equipment trailers. Thanks for everybodies info.
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10-04-2018, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
Solo Rvers Club Appalachian Campers Forest River Owners Club Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bath, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by znt1186
I agree with the above except that not all DMV folks can sort it out for you. The CDL manual is a little vague on the question in my opinion as well. However, if you read the laws, Papa&susu is correct. Please look at the NCDMV CDL Handbook, Section 1.8 Exemptions. I have attached a page from the manual for your review.
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I read that. Looks like a fuzzy area as well. I am sure finding a DMV office that can figure it out will be a blast, LOL Thanks for the info
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10-04-2018, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member
Solo Rvers Club Appalachian Campers Forest River Owners Club Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bath, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skelly65
I think the CDL & Class A are being mixed up. A CDL is for Commercial truck driving, Class A is for driving & towing a larger than normal vehicle such as motor homes. Class of DL will be based on length, size and weight of vehicle you will be driving. So you can have a class B CDL or a Class B drivers License and same goes for Class A CDL or Class A license. Primary difference would be are you getting paid to drive vehicle or is it a private not for hire vehicle that would determine CDL or none CDL. But you would still legally be required to posses proper Class license for vehicle being driven. Hope this helps. I know not all the states are the same, but it is better to have correct license than to get harassed or ticketed. Plus you should have the proper training when driving these larger vehicles. I dont want you putting my wife's or my life at stake because you were unaware of how to handle your vehicle.
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Thanks for the info. I agree but no book can make someone capable. I see Licensed truck drivers everyday that have NO business driving a truck, but they passed the test.
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10-04-2018, 05:23 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Springfield, IL
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What size MH are you considering - by GVWR?
According to MD DMV if vehicles is less than 26,001 lbs you don't need anything but your basic car license. If 26,001 or higher you need a Non CDL license based on weight of vehicle. The written test is not focused on RVs but rather trucks so you need to get the Non CDL study guide from DMV and study it all. Check internet for online sample tests - MO offers some good ones to build your comfort level.
Learner's permit is valid for 12 months. When you go to test, take the computer test and take the practice test before taking the real one. If your miss a question the computer gives you the correct answer for future reference.
After you get the learner's permit start test driving MH you are considering. If dealer won't let your TD then check others. If you have friends with MH in your weight category, ask them to take you out for a drive - I paid all expenses for my test drive and only needed one but I've driven MH and pulled TT since '78
Relax and enjoy the process -
Good Luck - Richard
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10-04-2018, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Illinois
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I drove a school bus in college (late 60s) and had to have a special license to do so. I kept the license for driving the church bus and the trucks on the farm.
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