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Old 11-10-2014, 06:50 PM   #29
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Update: we have narrowed to tiffin Allegro bus or zephyr most likely vs. newmar mountainaire. AC to get what these coaches offer would require another 100k to american eagle and just don't want to go there yet. I just don't see a lot of zephyr's out there and mountainaire offers the alleged better driving component. I am planning to go drive both , but as another post re winds me,in live in South Carolina so need to upgrade license and get a permit, so that is top priority first !!!!!
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:07 PM   #30
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Go with Newmar! JMHO but well thought out!
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:32 PM   #31
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Update: we have narrowed to tiffin Allegro bus or zephyr most likely vs. newmar mountainaire. AC to get what these coaches offer would require another 100k to american eagle and just don't want to go there yet. I just don't see a lot of zephyr's out there and mountainaire offers the alleged better driving component. I am planning to go drive both , but as another post re winds me,in live in South Carolina so need to upgrade license and get a permit, so that is top priority first !!!!!
Well Here goes...... I own a Tiffin Phaeton 42 TAG on a Bath and Half Floor plan. Tiffins floor plans are quite livable and the interiors are nicely appointed (including décor etc). I am a used RV purchaser. I make that choice for the savings and also with hope that I can get around some of the new issues. I also have had several RVs. They all do have problems sooner or later.
Of your two Tiffin choices, as you know, The Zephyr is their top. But for about 85 to 100k difference, the Allegro Bus has many of the same features and the floor plans are almost identical. The Zephyr does give you 500hp instead of 450, a 45 ft length, I believe Hadley air adjusted suspension... Aside from that they are very close. I mean 80- to 100k is a lot of travel expense and diesel.

And I do agree with some who have noted that their new coaches off the line seem to have some QC issues. Of the brands you mentioned, I think they produce the most per year and about 200-350 more than Newmar according to the last published numbers I saw.

But I gotta say...... As I look for a new coach. Newmar has been at the top of my list. Especially since the last couple of year models have finally come into the 21st Century in terms of interior layout and design. I am very into the driving experience now and Newmars Comfort Drive is part of that. They are nice to look at and I think they do a good job of backing their products. I have looked at Entegra Recently and floor plans are not to our liking. Mountainaires and Essex is our primary targets at this point, Unless a newer Foretravel falls out of the sky for me.

Thanks for the vine. You are on the right track!

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Old 01-01-2015, 06:55 PM   #32
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First, as many have already stated, pick a floor plan you really are comfortable with. With the floor plan goes the length of the coach. Some of the older RV parks can't handle a 45' rig. 40' is about the tops. But that is only a consideration. Features? What can you live with and without.

You didn't mention the Winnebago line of coaches. Nice floor plans and good power plants.

Why go new if you can get a good used rig with all that you need? DP's hold up well and stay on the road a long time with a little TLC.

You have a world of rigs to choose from. Enjoy your search. Oh, in your case 400hp or greater might be good. The newer 2010 EPA emissions requires DEF. Don't worry about that. It adds HP to the engine because it runs cleaner and can be tweaked from the factory better.

Look forward to reading about you final choice.

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I would like to comment on the engines.

Don't just compare HP numbers. There is a BIG difference between a 450 HP ISL and a 500 HP ISX. ISL 450 HP has 1250 ft lbs of torque the ISX 500 HP has 1550 ft lbs of torque. If you look at coaches with the 600 HP ISX they get 1900 ft lbs of torque.


When towing heavy loads, it will be the difference.
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If I had $600k to spend I would look at a used Newell.


http://motorhomesoftexas.com/

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2005 Newell 2 slide $350k 500 HP

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I would like to comment on the engines.

Don't just compare HP numbers. There is a BIG difference between a 450 HP ISL and a 500 HP ISX. ISL 450 HP has 1250 ft lbs of torque the ISX 500 HP has 1550 ft lbs of torque. If you look at coaches with the 600 HP ISX they get 1900 ft lbs of torque.


When towing heavy loads, it will be the difference.
We run the ISL 450. IMO there is lots of power while we tow near the coaches rating (13,000/15,000).

I have observed that I have to drive with cruise as using foot feed seems to increase speed as we go down the road. Engine loves to run.
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