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NC25T · 11-12-2020, 10:31 PM

I am looking for a used DP, a older higher end coach. I found a 06 American Tradition which I drove Tuesday, really liked how the coach felt. It’s a 30k mile one owner coach for $98k which I think is a sub $90k coach with some of the work it needs. This coach doesn’t have aquahot

Then looking at RVT/RVTrader there is a 07 Tradition with 70k miles, has aquahot and is just shy off $140k! It’s the same model, 400HP engine as the 06 however $40k more

I am sure there is more to it then just aquahot causing the price increase. However I am still curious if it’s worth even $10k more?

Coach will get used in the winter in Colorado (or other state) due to ski trip

R.Wold · 11-12-2020, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NC25T

I am looking for a used DP, a older higher end coach. I found a 06 American Tradition which I drove Tuesday, really liked how the coach felt. It’s a 30k mile one owner coach for $98k which I think is a sub $90k coach with some of the work it needs. This coach doesn’t have aquahot

Then looking at RVT/RVTrader there is a 07 Tradition with 70k miles, has aquahot and is just shy off $140k! It’s the same model, 400HP engine as the 06 however $40k more

I am sure there is more to it then just aquahot causing the price increase. However I am still curious if it’s worth even $10k more?

Coach will get used in the winter in Colorado (or other state) due to ski trip

It’s a $7k option new. Probably worth a $3500 bump used IMHO. It is wonderful if you don’t want to winterize and will be stayin in cold climates.

Cousin Ed · 11-13-2020, 06:47 AM

It's a lot like getting a DP over a gasser. It cost more, needs annual service ($200-300) and is more expensive to fix. BUT it sure is nice! You can't run out of hot water. It doesn't care how cold it is outside; it will keep you warn and if you have 15 -20 amp service available the diesel will keep everything from freezing until you head south for the winter.

Cat320 · 11-13-2020, 07:36 AM

AH is a great system. I've had two of them, and will disagree a bit with earlier comments. Annual maintenance is recommended but not required if the system is used. Also, according to a used RV web site, an AH system will add about $10k to the price of a used coach.

shootist · 11-13-2020, 07:47 AM

Wouldn't have a coach without it

Mr_D · 11-13-2020, 07:57 AM

Wanted it when we ordered our 2002 DSDP but Newmar wouldn't do it as a special. Only way was to order a MADP for $70,000 more so we passed.
Present CC Magna had it as standard equip and I never want a rig without it.
Do my own service for $50 or so. Easy to do too.

Spk64 · 11-13-2020, 08:00 AM

It was a nice to have when we were shopping. Our ‘02 MADP that we purchased had it and now it will be a must have on next coach.

R.Wold · 11-13-2020, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NC25T

I am looking for a used DP, a older higher end coach. I found a 06 American Tradition which I drove Tuesday, really liked how the coach felt. It’s a 30k mile one owner coach for $98k which I think is a sub $90k coach with some of the work it needs. This coach doesn’t have aquahot

Then looking at RVT/RVTrader there is a 07 Tradition with 70k miles, has aquahot and is just shy off $140k! It’s the same model, 400HP engine as the 06 however $40k more

I am sure there is more to it then just aquahot causing the price increase. However I am still curious if it’s worth even $10k more?

Coach will get used in the winter in Colorado (or other state) due to ski trip

Also that $40k price difference probably reflects the current covid fueled marked more than the value of the coach. Unless it’s the perfect unit and the extra $ are irrelevant, I’d keep shopping.

Prices are nuts right now. I bought my coach for $150k in May and it looks like I could reasonably list it right now for 25-30k more. And typically we’d be headed into a seasonal down market this time of year. But I suspect there will be a glut of used coaches on the market in a couple years when 2020 is just a bad memory.

Jean n Steve · 11-13-2020, 08:42 AM

Since this is our first coach I can't relate to not having it, but I think it would be a large step backwards to get a coach without it. Annual maintenance is a breeze (I did filter, nozzle, and boiler fluid for the first time this year), and the benefits are a no-brainer for us. Hot water when we stop the rig (system is off but water circulates through the engine block), no separate fuel system for heat (unless you run the diesel tank below 1/4), almost unlimited hot shower water, heat in the rig in just a few minutes when you need it. Oh yeah.

R.Wold · 11-13-2020, 08:50 AM

also I have a very nice little heat exchanger in the wet bay that prevents freezing - just set it for 45* or so. Not sure if it heats the whole basement but I suspect it heats the majority just being there doing it’s thing.

530ktm · 11-13-2020, 08:53 AM

I am with the others. This is my first coach with it and I would not go back. No more propane tanks, no more hot water tank and plenty of heat when needed. Also heats floors very nicely.

96 Wideglide · 11-13-2020, 08:57 AM

Biggest advantage to me is it has a very large fuel supply, which is often being replenished if you are using your coach. Finding places to fill your smaller propane tank can be harder to find.
Disadvantage, no matter how well it's burning, it still smells of spent diesel.

RELHUB · 11-13-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NC25T

I am looking for a used DP, a older higher end coach. I found a 06 American Tradition which I drove Tuesday, really liked how the coach felt. It’s a 30k mile one owner coach for $98k which I think is a sub $90k coach with some of the work it needs. This coach doesn’t have aquahot

Then looking at RVT/RVTrader there is a 07 Tradition with 70k miles, has aquahot and is just shy off $140k! It’s the same model, 400HP engine as the 06 however $40k more

I am sure there is more to it then just aquahot causing the price increase. However I am still curious if it’s worth even $10k more?

Coach will get used in the winter in Colorado (or other state) due to ski trip

Assuming you love the floor plan on each. It comes down to options / Money.
If you want to save money then go with the 1 owner 07 if you want more options then I would go with the newer coach as long as it is in good working order. I am not a fan of DPF so I would not purchase any MH with it.

Ljwt330 · 11-13-2020, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RELHUB

Assuming you love the floor plan on each. It comes down to options / Money.
If you want to save money then go with the 1 owner 07 if you want more options then I would go with the newer coach as long as it is in good working order. I am not a fan of DPF so I would not purchase any MH with it.

This brings up a point the OP may wish to consider, the Diesel Particle Filter (DPF.) The 06 coach will definitely not have that system, and the 07 coach may not have the system as many model year units are built on older chassis. The 07 may have an 06 or earlier engine, which would not have the DPF.

If this is something the OP is interested in, he can get the serial number of the engine and contact Cummins for verification of emissions equipment.

All this being said, the DPF system is relatively benign. However you need to be aware of regenerations, their function and cautions, and know that, eventually, the filter will need to be removed and serviced though the time for that is fairly lengthy. One has to be more aware of excessive idling and extensive stop-and-go traffic as well.

All food for thought.