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Old 01-19-2021, 02:10 AM   #1
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Is it my starter?

I've got a 1996 Country Coach Intrigue 40 ft single axle. It has been great and very dependable haven't been traveling in it much for the past year last I started it up was eight months ago. I just replaced all the batteries coach and house batteries a couple of months back. Now I turn the key and nothing on a sound not a crank nada.
I'm wondering where to start looking my hunch is the starter motor has frozen up?
I was trying to read posts of similar problems but all the comments got all technical way to quickly. Some of the folks here were talking about replacing the starter with aftermarket that was a better IDK.
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I've got a 1996 Country Coach Intrigue 40 ft single axle. It has been great and very dependable haven't been traveling in it much for the past year last I started it up was eight months ago. I just replaced all the batteries coach and house batteries a couple of months back. Now I turn the key and nothing on a sound not a crank nada.
I'm wondering where to start looking my hunch is the starter motor has frozen up?
I was trying to read posts of similar problems but all the comments got all technical way to quickly. Some of the folks here were talking about replacing the starter with aftermarket that was a better IDK.

Are you sure the batteries are fully charged?
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Old 01-19-2021, 05:17 AM   #3
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You replaced the batteries 2 months ago but from your post it's been 8 months since it started?

There are dozens of reasons an engine won't start, batteries not properly installed is high on my list in this case as it sounds like you never started it until now?

But as triplewide said they may be dead. New batteries aren't necessarily fully charged, and they've sat another two months, were they being charged?

Unless you troubleshoot a little at a time and post the results your thread will go the same way as the others.
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Old 01-19-2021, 05:33 AM   #4
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Hi,
As stated above, I would make sure the batteries are fully charged before going any farther. If you have not run your coach for an extended time your batteries could be low and unable to start the coach. Make sure they are connected the proper way. It is always a good idea to start your coach at least once a month and charge batteries up. Also need to run your aux generator with a load on it if you have one installed. Without more information from you it is hard to diagnose the problem. Check the batteries then report back here as to what you find.


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If the batteries turn out to be OK, does the shifter panel light up ?

If it doesn't, you need to see why. There is often a hidden fuse near the batteries that sends power to the transmission.
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Turn the headlights on. Do they dim when you try and start?
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If the batteries are charged , the next immediate check I make is to the ground. I spent a fortune replacing my starters on a rig one time only to find out my ground- which visually appeared fine- was corroded and not making adequate contact. A quick clean up of all the metal contact and my rig started right up like it was new.
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If you don't hear any "clicks" when turning the key, look at battery connections (especially since that was the last thing you worked on). If positive that is fine, then look towards a starter solenoid. That should click when turning on the Start position. Have someone turn the key while you listen.

If you are careful, and the rig is properly supported by rated jack stands on a stable, solid surface, then you can touch the solenoid to feel if it clicks. Certainly don't get your hands in anything that moves when the motor does turn over (fan belt etc).

My bet is battery connections. Going deeper into the system will require lots more electrical background.
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The smaller cable and fuse has been mentioned. Clean all grounds on frame I have a ground cable on starter as well. Jiggle key up and down to test failing ignition switch. Do you have a remote start panel in back is it set to front did you bump it. I have an ignition on solenoid powers all the chassis items about same as a car with key on. Has chassis battery disconnect failed headlights may drop out it may heat up a bit and then open when hit with higher amps. You have a smaller remote solenoid that pulls in the starters higher amp engaging solenoid. An old trick is to jump that small one with a screwdriver. Besides failed ignition relay I have read of these happening more often than failed starters or found after starter purchase, not they don't fail. A decent tap on starter solenoid will often free it up temporarily .
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I would revisit the batteries, as mentioned they could have drained down over the last 2 months, maybe I missed it but did not see if you have coach plugged into shore power. Lots of good advise in previous threads.
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maybe check your ignition switch or ignition solenoid.
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Do the quick easy and most of all, cheap things first. Do all of the above plus clean all of the electrical connections involved. Battery cables, if they are aftermarket ends that bolt on to the battery cable (generally 7/16" nuts & bolt heads) take them off and clean them. Clean the grounds like mentioned above. Inspect the battery cables for any bulges or funny looking areas where they may have become corroded. Check with an OHM meter if you have one it should be -0- or very close to it. My point being that on a coach the age of yours the degradation in the wiring in the starter circuit is as likely as the starter to be your problem. Once you have eliminated all of the other possibilities take the starter off and have it tested. If it tests bad then you know where your problem is. Good luck.


P.S. when you put things back together use a little dielectric grease to help keep moisture out of the connections.
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Check to see that the batteries are fully charged.
When you turn the key on, do the gauges do their thing with the needled going full right then left? Do you hear any clicks? Does the shift pad light up?
In the engine compartment. look down on the lower right side and see if there is a relay there. It is attached to the rear bulkhead of the filter bay. Give it a couple of raps with a mallet or something. A bad relay will not let the coach start. It is in addition to the relay on the starter
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It could be the starter but that would be well down my suspect list. Start with verifying chassis battery fully charged, connections to battery posts clean and conducting well, are dashboard and shifter panel lights coming on, does radio play with key in ACC position, headlights come on, etc. If all of that stuff appears to be working, then maybe I would take a look at the starter wiring and solenoid.
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