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02-06-2020, 07:37 AM
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It's there if I need it,
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02-06-2020, 07:53 AM
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US1
Yes, that can be done on the roadside. That's why a carry a tire. Rims are not the same for steer wheel and drive wheel. So, if I wanted to be able to replace the entire flat (tire and rim) I would have to carry two full spares. Not able to do that. Replacing a tire on a rim is rather quick when done by an experienced tow/service person sent out by your roadside assistance policy provider. Sometimes, it may be hours or a day for that person to locate a replacement tire for your rig if you don't have one onboard.
Ray
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02-06-2020, 08:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by US1
I’m 2 weeks new to the RV world, but I dont understand why some carry a tire w/o a wheel. Do roadside services unmount the bad and mount the good right there on the side of the road?
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Yes. All the time. Much easier than you'd think. As you see semis on the road, look under the trailer. Many have a spare tire rack, and many just carry an unmounted tire.
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1994 Excella 25-ft (Gertie)
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
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02-06-2020, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by House Husband
I try to keep myself as independent at possible.
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This. I too try to stay independent, at least to the degree that I can. I'm not going to replace a blown turbo on the side of the road, but I can certainly change one of my little doughnut wheels if necessary. Having changed hundreds (literally) of 22.5" truck and trailer tires (split rims on Dayton spoke hubs) over the years, often on the side of an interstate, I think I still have enough juice left in me to take care of my little wheels. But if not, some youngster can do it for me.
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Originally Posted by US1
I’m 2 weeks new to the RV world, but I don't understand why some carry a tire w/o a wheel. Do roadside services unmount the bad and mount the good right there on the side of the road?
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In addition to the other comments addressing this, road service techs can also break it down and patch (from the inside) the existing tire if it's only a nail and remount it, air it up, check for leaks, and put it back on the coach.
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02-06-2020, 11:52 AM
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Thanks. I did not know this. Are the 19.5 rims interchangeable front to rear? My RV has a tire/wheel spare underneath.
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02-06-2020, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by US1
Thanks. I did not know this. Are the 19.5 rims interchangeable front to rear? My RV has a tire/wheel spare underneath.
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Most likely ,, Pretty much for certain if it's a manufacturer supplied spare.
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02-06-2020, 07:20 PM
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If it's a steel wheel, which it almost certainly is, you may have to use a spacer, or different nuts, when replacing an aluminium wheel. If you even have aluminium wheels, that is.
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02-09-2020, 09:13 PM
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Member
Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Pennsylvania
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Thanks everyone for replies
Thanks everyone for replies, good point to consider.
I am going with 6 new SUMO tires and will keep the best Michilen for a spare as it hopefully can get me to a place I can get a new replacement.
Thanks again.
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02-10-2020, 08:24 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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Mark, when I owned my 2005 Monaco Diplomat, I carried an unmounted spare in the bay. I carried it because my Diplomat had a small 22.5 tire that was hard to find. Many say they'll just call road service and have them bring out a spare. I always tell them to call their local tire store and see if they carry their tire, at least their size, in stock. Most often they'll have to get it from the warehouse the next day. Now.....take that scenario when you have a flat on Saturday afternoon of a holiday weekend. Where are you going to get a tire. You may not even find a used one, if it's an odd size.
My current coach has a tag axle. In an emergency, I can put any old 22.5 on the tag tire and move one of the tag tires to the front or rear duals.
If you have the room, carry a spare. You don't need a new one, just find a good used one n the same size or close to the same size. The ones you're removing are junk, I wouldn't save one of those.
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02-11-2020, 09:49 PM
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Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by RV_Guy_Mark
Thanks everyone for replies, good point to consider.
I am going with 6 new SUMO tires and will keep the best Michilen for a spare as it hopefully can get me to a place I can get a new replacement.
Thanks again.
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By SUMO, I guess you mean Sumitomo? That's what I have and they've been working well for me so far.
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02-13-2020, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
Excel Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Santa Fe, NM
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Common issue for sure.
To me part of the answer depends on:
1) Do you mostly travel in areas with lots of towns and tire shops? Or out where the next town maybe 100 miles and may have any Tires in your size or even mobil service to help you. In which case it can be a very long wait to get on the road again, maybe days parked there. Might or might not be a friendly place to be parked.
2) Do you have a common tire size or different front and back?
3) Is there ANY place you can carry a spare, mounted or not.
4) Many Class A owners may not be physically able to change a large tire, but having one can be a real saver.
5) A spare tire is like life insurance, you would prefer not to use it.
I've never had a RV (MH or trailer) tire fail or go flat while driving. However, I've had plenty of failures and flats on my cars and trucks all due to road damage, nails and the like and sharp rocks. In one pickup I always carried two spares. On a single trip on some very rough mountain roads I needed three spares in one weekend, ouch.
I am able to and have equipment to change tires on both RVs and my other trucks/cars. So I carry spares for everything and makes sure they are road worthy under full loads. But I go places where there's no cell service and no nearby road assistance folks.
In the end there's no right or wrong solution, but you have to chose and live with it.
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02-13-2020, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: 12/29/23 LaBelle FL
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Replacing 6 Tires
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Originally Posted by RV_Guy_Mark
I just bought a used Newmar Mountain Aire and the 6 Michelin 235/80 R22.5 are showing cracks on the side walls so I am replacing all 6 tires, probably going with Toyo 245/75 R22.5.
So my Mountain Aire has a spare tire up under the back. Being winter now and wet ground, I did not crawl under the rig to inspect the spare, but it is probably old though protected from sun light.
So I am thinking, is it really worth buying a brand new spare? If I have a blow out, I will be calling Good Sam and could get a new tire when needed, probably a much newer tire than one that would be aging under the RV by the time the next set of Toyos start wearing out.
Intrerested in getting opinions from more experienced RV owners.
Thanks, Mark
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Mark,
If you are not already Family Motor Coach members, sign up today.
They have the Michelin Tire Advantage Program available to members. We used it to replace 2 fronts last summer and just started the process to replace the rear 4. Saving $70.00 per tire.
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02-13-2020, 03:37 PM
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Commercial Member
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Location: Akron, Ohio
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I have a few posts on spare tires on my RV Tire Safety blog. Probably your best bet is to have the 6 tires inspected. Keep the best tire -on wheel. Less weight, Service guy can do the tire change and you could save $hundreds.
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02-13-2020, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Lake Livingston, TX
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If you have a NEWMAR motorhome and the rear dual tires blow out, a spare tire isn't going to solve this NEWMAR owner's problems.
https://youtu.be/lRD8nSoJCyU?t=293
The blown tire debris smashed through the rear fender by the engine compartment.
Tire repair guy #1 installs two new tires for the rear. The diesel won't start. The debris from the blown tire went through the rear fender into the engine compartment and trashed the electronic program control box for the diesel and tore out some of the wiring harness. Tow guy #1 disconnected driveshaft for towing and tried to hook up to the front of the MH, but there are no attachment points. Several tow companies declined to bid on this job since they didn't have the equipment.
Ron Pratt came out with his Western Star with Vulcan 70 and was able to do a front wheel tow on the NEWMAR. That MH was never designed to be towed.
You can read about all the details in the attached link.
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