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08-11-2021, 12:30 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 602
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Seems fishy to me. Isn't a Monaco Windsor a big rear engine diesel pusher? At one point in the ad it says it is 23 feet long - smallest Windsor that year was over 34 feet, most were much bigger. A generator that is 4000 watts runs a smaller 30 amp rig - not a 50 amp rig with multiple ACs. Also, 8 cylinders seems like it might be describing a gas rig.
There is some Craigslist scam where these motorhome and boat ads are copied, mixed up, and re-posted, but I'm not sure how it works. I certainly don't trust it to be a true vehicle for sale.
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2014 Itasca 27n
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08-11-2021, 12:35 AM
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Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Oregon
Posts: 83
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You're right. I'll call in the morning just to be sure
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08-11-2021, 03:45 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,054
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Originally Posted by Lelah
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It's in Portland It's a scam. People getting beat up in broad daylight. Take several big guys with you or a police officer., if you do check it out. I wouldn't trust anyone in Portland right now.
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08-11-2021, 04:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 8,638
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Some models of road master chassis had trailing arm issues maybe?
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2007 Fleetwood Revolution LE 40V
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08-11-2021, 05:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: MN
Posts: 2,809
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I've been searching for an enclosed trailer, and I keep finding links to ads on Craigslist, but I've stopped following them.
I don't understand how they're making money off of these scam ads, but they all - 9 of the last 9 - turn out to be nonexistent. Nice pictures, a Craigslist email link, but never any response and then the ad is "flagged for removal" by CL after a day or two.
(I should add: the scam ads have all been "by owner" ads. The dealer-placed ads have been real.)
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1993 Rockwood 28' Class C - Ford E-350 7.5L
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08-11-2021, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 1,793
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Could be real... that phone number comes up as a landline in the Medford, Oregon area.
Craigslist scammers usually want you to contact them through a separate email. (Never do that) They will then ask for info like Paypal account or info they can provide to a shipper. In reality, they slowly get info and piece it all together like a puzzle in order to access your accounts and/or open lines of credit in your name.
I will only do face to face cash transactions when buying or selling vehicles. I always meet at a busy public location and I also verify all cash is real in front of the buyer.
I have a separate party watching and ready for any issues that may arise.
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2017 22K Bounder 415/6spd/5:38s
2018 F150 Lariat 502A 4X4 Toad & Tow Vehicle
2023 Rockwood GeoPro 20BHS
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08-11-2021, 06:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Around Europe!
Posts: 179
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I´m sure its a scam. When I was looking for mine, the fishy ones usually with no or very positive descriptions. And pricing far below NAPA. One other rule of thumb: Very few or just one image.
That not "grey" and def above 30". That size never with an Onan 4000.
For curiosity I was contacting a few of them: Usually stored somewhere else. And they offered me home delivery with down payments. No inspection possible.
Thats where they make money from my perspective. Buyers get greedy and transfer some money without seeing the rig.
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08-11-2021, 06:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Around Europe!
Posts: 179
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Originally Posted by Bobby F
I've been searching for an enclosed trailer, and I keep finding links to ads on Craigslist, but I've stopped following them.
I don't understand how they're making money off of these scam ads, but they all - 9 of the last 9 - turn out to be nonexistent. Nice pictures, a Craigslist email link, but never any response and then the ad is "flagged for removal" by CL after a day or two.
(I should add: the scam ads have all been "by owner" ads. The dealer-placed ads have been real.)
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They "handed" me over to home delivery service when I try to find out how the scam is working. Down payments before delivery. Offering the rig to be inspected after delivery. Which I believe will never happen.
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08-11-2021, 06:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
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It looks like someone who knows nothing about motorhomes has combined two different ads to come up with this enticing one. Certain things mentioned are not in a Monaco coach. I wouldn't even waste a phone call on that one unless I could drive up and look at it.
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08-11-2021, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,569
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Originally Posted by Lelah
You're right. I'll call in the morning just to be sure
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I don't think you should call.
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1996 Tioga Class C
2007 Monaco Diplomat 40 PDQ
TOAD 2012 Cadillac SRX 4
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08-11-2021, 07:09 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 1,793
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruediger
They "handed" me over to home delivery service when I try to find out how the scam is working. Down payments before delivery. Offering the rig to be inspected after delivery. Which I believe will never happen.
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Those type of scammers will sometimes have a website or a physical address. When you google map the address, it usually comes up as a location in a high rise building in a big city. In other words... it doesn't actually exist.
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2017 22K Bounder 415/6spd/5:38s
2018 F150 Lariat 502A 4X4 Toad & Tow Vehicle
2023 Rockwood GeoPro 20BHS
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08-11-2021, 07:35 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 14,494
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~3 years ago I was looking for a ~25' enclosed trailer. Found one on Craigslist that seemed to be legit at a decent price. So I made contact and arrangements to go inspect.
The trailer was real but things didn't add up. Recently painted, no VIN on it, padlock on hitch was cut (duh). And NO title! Wiring was also screwed up and the brakes didn't work. Wiring harness got hot when plugged into my hitch.
When I was talking to the guy I asked about the VIN and he said he pulled the sticker off to paint the trailer and showed it to me so I took a picture. I did not buy the rig.
When I got home (different state) I called the police to see if they could run the VIN, an officer called me back and said they don't do that for individuals so I thought that was that. About 5 minutes later the officer called me back and said he and his commander checked he VIN and the trailer was indeed stolen from a 3rd state. He said he would give my contact info to the 3rd state police and a detective did call me and I provided him all the information.
The Craigslist sent me a PM a couple days later and said the trailer was no longer for sale
So maybe I was able to get someone property back and I didn't get screwed.
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2002 Monaco Windsor 38 PKD Cummins ISC 350 8.3L
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/5.7 Hemi
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08-11-2021, 09:06 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
Posts: 54,622
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Definitely too good to be true! Something wrong for sure! Run, don't walk!
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Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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