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drive805 · 07-21-2016, 11:42 PM

so I have decided to replace the fixtures and install LED bulbs and install a compatible flasher. Thank you all for your help . in checking through all.this.i.found a bad ground so it's a start to repair all the lights . when I get this going I'll post pictures

soneil422 · 01-04-2017, 08:45 PM

I just changed out my mid ship clearance/turn signal lights. I'm having the same problem. I'll try to make sense of this for you.

Wires in the coach are the same color (black) so I have no way to describe color and which wires I'm using.
(with wires connected 1 way)
1. The front and rear signals have no problems (no matter the outcome posted below.)
2. With headlights on, mid ship lights work the same as incandescent bulbs. (clearance & signals)
3. Turn headlights off, mid ship lights do not work at all. (no turn or clearance)
(switch wires coming from the coach)
1. The front and rear signals have no problems (no matter the outcome posted below.)
2. With headlights on, mid ship lights do not work.
3. Turn headlights off, mid ship lights work correctly as signals only (cause headlights are off)

Incandescent bulbs work, even if you switch the wires around. (since they are not polarity sensitive).

So I get that the mid ship lights are floating ground (or interrupted ground causing the flash as opposed to + turning off and on).

I'm not sure a 3-wire mid ship light will work since I only have 2 wires coming out of the coach.

Any ideas? Thanks, Scott.

cmccallum · 01-04-2017, 09:56 PM

Hi there, I noticed this thread this evening and became very worried as I just installed LED markers mid-ships (amber) and rear (red) on my 2007 Outlaw. Wiring in both places is two black wires. When I put them in, I checked that they came on, but didn't check to see if the mid-ships worked as turn signals. So I just ran out in the rain to check. Luckily(?) they work as expected them to. Maybe I was just fortunate with the polarity.

I replaced the four of them as one of each were lost due to mishaps

and I want to keep my coach symmetrical.

I do think the LEDs look nicer too.

Cheers
Mike

soneil422 · 01-04-2017, 10:21 PM

Mike,
Try working them both with your headlights on and off. They should function as signals only with headlights off. Then with headlights on, they should function as clearance lights and blink with the signal.

cmccallum · 01-04-2017, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by soneil422

Mike,
Try working them both with your headlights on and off. They should function as signals only with headlights off. Then with headlights on, they should function as clearance lights and blink with the signal.

Yup, they do exactly that. Works for me, but as I said, maybe I just picked the right combination.

Cheers
Mike

soneil422 · 01-04-2017, 10:47 PM

You sure lucked out. What led light housing did you use?

cmccallum · 01-04-2017, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by soneil422

You sure lucked out. What led light housing did you use?

I bought these from etrailer.com. The pictures look identical, but the red ones are simple two wire. The amber came with plugs (not shown in the catalog pictures). The $0.20 difference in price must be because of the plug. Maybe the plug/led mech figures out the right polarity?

(EDIT: the video description says "it does not matter which wire you run to which function" which I think he means it figures out the polarity.)

Red LED Clearance/Side Marker

Amber LED Clearance/Side Marker

Cheers
Mike

pwhittle · 01-04-2017, 11:23 PM

On mine various switch combinations can reverse the polarity too.

You can wire a bridge rectifier like these MULTICOMP W04M BRIDGE RECTIFIER, 1PH, 1.5A, 400V, WOB (10 pieces) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LQQJ9G8..._0vEBybBSJ2BR1 in series with the socket that the LED is in, and the LED will light for both polarities.

Paul