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Old 02-05-2020, 12:34 PM   #1
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When I auto level our Adventurer 37F, the left front tire is always off the ground....no matter how level
Or I level I am prior to leveling....is this normal?
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:37 PM   #2
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When I auto level our Adventurer 37F, the left front tire is always off the ground....no matter how level
Or I level I am prior to leveling....is this normal?
Translation please.

Have you calibrated your automatic leveler?
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:48 PM   #3
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I personally dont like the 'auto' level feature so I level our coach using the manual setting and verifying with a long level in a few different places within the coach.
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First off, Welcome to IRV2!

No, that is not normal. As suggested, it sounds like you need to recalibrate the auto level system. You should have directions for your brand/model either in your manufacturer information or look it up on line.
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Old 02-05-2020, 01:17 PM   #5
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The vast majority of us use manual leveling

The coach will be closer to the ground and with less weight on Jack's, increased stability

I like the bedroom slide about 1 inch higher than the opposite so easily accomplished

Typically I use the level indicator for front to back and the 1/2 bath door for side to side
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It would help to know what leveling system your Adventurer 37F has. Do you know the manufacturer and is it electric or hydraulic?

On my coach with the PowerGear hydraulic leveling system, the two front wheels are not individually leveled, but they are in fact joined together. It is impossible for one of the front wheels to be off the ground unless the maximum rate of travel is exceeded.
Now the rears are individually powered and it is possible to raise one wheel off the ground and not the other.


A properly calibrated auto leveling system works beautifully in my coach.
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It would help to know what leveling system your Adventurer 37F has. Do you know the manufacturer and is it electric or hydraulic?

On my coach with the PowerGear hydraulic leveling system, the two front wheels are not individually leveled, but they are in fact joined together. It is impossible for one of the front wheels to be off the ground unless the maximum rate of travel is exceeded.
Now the rears are individually powered and it is possible to raise one wheel off the ground and not the other.


A properly calibrated auto leveling system works beautifully in my coach.
So how do you raise the right front without also raising the left front?
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So how do you raise the right front without also raising the left front?
I can only speak for my Fleetwood Discovery with the PowerGear Hydraulic Stabilizers. Other manufactures could do things differently.

The two rear stabilizer legs are independently operated with a separate hydraulic fluid solenoid for each leg.

The fronts share one solenoid and the one hydraulic fluid line(hose) until it reaches the front of the coach, then a T where fluid goes under the same pressure to each front leg.

When the controller wants to raise the front it does so by opening the one solenoid and pump sends fluid to both front legs equally and the front of the coach raises.

When the controller needs to raise the entire rear of the coach, two solenoids open and fluid flows to the two rear legs.

When the controller wants to raise the left side, or right side, the rear leg solenoid for whatever side needs to be raised opens and fluid goes to that rear leg only, then the coach acts like a tricycle, only instead of one front wheel in a tricycle, there are two front wheels tied hydraulically tied together allowing the coach to pivot.

NOTE: my air suspension system works in a similar fashion, in that two front airbags are tied together and act as a pivot, and the rear bags are independent of each other. Some Freightliner chassis have the opposite design. The rears are tied together and the front act independently.

This is critical to keep the front of the coach from "racking" and damaging the frame and or windshield.

Maybe someone can explain this better than me and post a diagram.
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So how do you raise the right front without also raising the left front?

Some have 4 corner hydraulics.
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We've got a quadra BigFoot system which replaced the old Atwood Levelegs.

The quadra works like a dream in auto-mode. (After overcoming a completely amateur installation by RnR RV in Liberty Lake, WA)
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I personally dont like the 'auto' level feature so I level our coach using the manual setting and verifying with a long level in a few different places within the coach.
Same here. I can actually level in less time manually than auto does it and the coach is closer to the ground. I've tried calibrating a few times, and it gets no better.

We don't know what Dzalenski has, but I'm betting manually leveling would solve the problem.
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I can only speak for my Fleetwood Discovery with the PowerGear Hydraulic Stabilizers. Other manufactures could do things differently.

The two rear stabilizer legs are independently operated with a separate hydraulic fluid solenoid for each leg.

The fronts share one solenoid and the one hydraulic fluid line(hose) until it reaches the front of the coach, then a T where fluid goes under the same pressure to each front leg.

When the controller wants to raise the front it does so by opening the one solenoid and pump sends fluid to both front legs equally and the front of the coach raises.

When the controller needs to raise the entire rear of the coach, two solenoids open and fluid flows to the two rear legs.

When the controller wants to raise the left side, or right side, the rear leg solenoid for whatever side needs to be raised opens and fluid goes to that rear leg only, then the coach acts like a tricycle, only instead of one front wheel in a tricycle, there are two front wheels tied hydraulically tied together allowing the coach to pivot.

NOTE: my air suspension system works in a similar fashion, in that two front airbags are tied together and act as a pivot, and the rear bags are independent of each other. Some Freightliner chassis have the opposite design. The rears are tied together and the front act independently.

This is critical to keep the front of the coach from "racking" and damaging the frame and or windshield.

Maybe someone can explain this better than me and post a diagram.
Can't wrap my mind around this. Seems like there'd be some twisting of the coach (front to back) if the fronts stayed even and one of the rears went higher than the other rear,

Ours doesn't have the auto level system but after seeing how the system works on a couple of other rigs I know of, this is fine by me. Those systems seem to go crazy at times with the jumping and pumping back and forth between the jacks. Then after all that, if the auto leveling sequence does complete, there's a decent chance the rig ends up being jacked up higher than it needs to be.
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Sounds like a calibration issue to me as well, my auto level feature works as designed and expected.
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It would help to know what leveling system your Adventurer 37F has. Do you know the manufacturer and is it electric or hydraulic?

On my coach with the PowerGear hydraulic leveling system, the two front wheels are not individually leveled, but they are in fact joined together. It is impossible for one of the front wheels to be off the ground unless the maximum rate of travel is exceeded.
Now the rears are individually powered and it is possible to raise one wheel off the ground and not the other.


A properly calibrated auto leveling system works beautifully in my coach.
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