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Old 08-01-2021, 02:08 PM   #1
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Greetings!

We are deep in the process of finding our first RV, and have looked and driven a couple of Newmar gassers so far. The vast number of options and variations is mind numbing at times.

What I am wondering, particularly with both gas and diesel Class As, would there be the motorhome equivalent to a Volvo in the automotive world? I know there is no actual Volvo class A, at least here in the US, but how about a brand and/or model that has that same solid driving feel, comfort and reliability that we experience with our Volvo cars. Not too much bling, just tastefully appointed, good looking without being flashy, and a reasonable value for what you pay.

Ideally, my preference would be for a smaller diesel under 26k GVWR, around 3-5 years old, and with potential longevity for us or any other future owner. Budget we are shooting for is to stay as far under $200k as possible.

Yes, I know there have been many posts about selecting the right RV, but having a recent perspective may point us in the right direction today. We have committed to our son and his family that we will join them on the road for Thanksgiving as they head for Branson in their Super C. so no pressure.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined us!

I would suggest that you go to RVTrader.com, put in some basic info such as Class A, length, age, price, etc., and see what shows up. This will give you a better idea of what you have to choose from.

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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We had a gas coach. What we didn't care for the noise.an Heat an the⅘ rided Because.of the motor location
Sitting next to the motor..We now have diesel coach .its kinda each to there own not going back to gas
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have been spending plenty of time at RVTrader, Craigslist locally and elsewhere, Facebook Marketplace, and find that it will probably take a road trip to see most of what I find.

The challenge seems to be in finding an example to drive. Our first Class A experience was discouraging, and nearly put us off considering an A at all. I felt like we did not have a representative drive, since it was in a large parking lot, so I tried again in a different coach on some open roads (no freeway yet), and came away willing to reconsider. Both times we were put off by the noise of the V10 in the gassers, so I really want to try a small DP. Not many models fit the below 26K GVWR, but I keep looking.

Back to my Volvo analogy: Any options worth considering?

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If you are looking at small diesel pushers, there are few at 26,000 pounds GVWR and under. In contrast, you can find plenty of Mercedes-Benz Sprinter-class front-engine diesels that are small.

As you have found, manufacturers have ceded the under-40-foot space to the gas chassis, at least since the 2008 recession. There are some exceptions. Other folks will be along shortly to tell you what they are.

Hmm... the "Volvo" thing. Newmar makes the New Aire, but it is a top-of-the-line coach and prices reflect that. If I were to suggest anything else, it might be the Tiffin Breeze.

All the best in your search. Thanksgiving is actually pretty close for a search-and-buy mission. Prices are outrageously high right now.
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When I was searching for our first RV years ago, besides RV shows and online websites, I found a boat/RV dealer a couple hours away. After weekend visits to my late mom, on my way back home I would spend some time going through their RVs which were all open during business hours. Most of the RVs were junk (smelly, broken stuff, missing a couch, etc.) but it did give me the opportunity to define what type of floor plan I wanted. Once I had a good idea of what I wanted, I scoured RVTrader for about a year. Found our new to us DP on RVTrader, and 4 years later we are very happy with it.
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Look at a Tiffin Breeze, or a Tiffin Red 340 in 33ft. Both short diesels.


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We know 2 couples who have had remarkable success w/mid-30' Newmar Ventanas.

And I also agree that the more rigs you see, the more clear your choice will become.
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Most gasser motorhomes are NOT going to drive like a top-end car. I can't speak to the new Ford Chassis, but the one that's been around for the last few decades, virtually unchanged, was not a real pleasure to drive.

There are a few things that make for a nicer driving Class A:

1. A tag axle...though you'll be hard pressed to find those on short units.
2. Comfort Drive Steering available on many Newmar Diesel Pushers
3. Air ride suspension
4. Active Air upgraded air ride suspension (I don't have personal experience, but have read a lot of reviews by individuals that have had it installed and swear by the improvement it makes.) It's pricey though....around $10K installed by HWH.

Newmar New Aire's are probably one of the finest short Diesel Pushers on the market, but it may be difficult to find one for <$200K. Older short Foretravel's might also be an option to fit your budget.

The net is, you will just need to start going to dealerships, looking and test driving.

The search is a big part of the fun! Good luck.
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All of the gas class A’s are going to be built on a Ford chassis. What sets the manufacturers apart is how well they insulate the coach and what wheelbase they use in relation to the overall length of the coach.

Ideally the wheelbase should be around 55% or so of the overall length of the RV. Less than that and they will generally handle poorly.

I have a Newmar gasser and I am very happy with it. I’ve put 30,000 miles on it in 4 years and I think it’s a great bang for your buck.
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Greetings!

We are deep in the process of finding our first RV, and have looked and driven a couple of Newmar gassers so far. The vast number of options and variations is mind numbing at times.

What I am wondering, particularly with both gas and diesel Class As, would there be the motorhome equivalent to a Volvo in the automotive world? I know there is no actual Volvo class A, at least here in the US, but how about a brand and/or model that has that same solid driving feel, comfort and reliability that we experience with our Volvo cars. Not too much bling, just tastefully appointed, good looking without being flashy, and a reasonable value for what you pay.

Ideally, my preference would be for a smaller diesel under 26k GVWR, around 3-5 years old, and with potential longevity for us or any other future owner. Budget we are shooting for is to stay as far under $200k as possible.

Yes, I know there have been many posts about selecting the right RV, but having a recent perspective may point us in the right direction today. We have committed to our son and his family that we will join them on the road for Thanksgiving as they head for Branson in their Super C. so no pressure.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

TC
While you're looking to go small, keep in mind that you'll get used to driving it and may want something larger before long, so just be sure and buy your last coach, first or take a beaten when you decide to trade up.
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I've always thought the Winnebago Journey to be a nice mid-priced DP-- not too opulent-- and they are available in the age and price range you are considering. I haven't seen the interiors of them in the last few years, but in past they were tasteful without looking like a Las Vegas lounge. I decided against a DP because I didn't want to tie that much money up in something I might only use once or twice a year, and diesel maintenance costs are higher. As it turns out-- though we're quite happy with National Dolphin we bought-- we have been using it more than we expected and I might consider a DP if I had it to do all over again.
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I recently got my parents into a new Class A and we like it. It's a 30 foot gas powered unit with the Ford F53 chassis. We got it new for ~$130k CAD so that's probably just over $100k USD. It's a Coachmen Pursuit 29 and has an outside kitchen etc. I really like the build quality and the chassis/drivetrain and it won't break the bank at all. That would put you as far under the $200k threshold as you can go while still being brand new. But you didn't mention length. in this case, ours is perfect for their last motorhome and occasional use.
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Back to my Volvo analogy: Any options worth considering?

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I think you are confusing the approach. Class A motorhomes are built on a supplied chassis whether gas or diesel. Once you decide on that, then you will be able to start looking at build quality of the "house" portion.
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