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12-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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Greetings List, and Happy Holidays to all,
Sharon in TN here with yet another novice MH-er question (I feel like I owe everyone out there a drink for all your help!). I have modified my shop to accomodate my 1997 Dutch Star DP, and now need to set up the proper plug so I can have shore power when needed. My electrician has the proper plug and all that, and I told him I need only 30 amps here at home, and now he asks me: 110 or 220? To which I reply, uummmmmmmmmmmm......
any thoughts on this? Thanks Sharon
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12-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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Greetings List, and Happy Holidays to all,
Sharon in TN here with yet another novice MH-er question (I feel like I owe everyone out there a drink for all your help!). I have modified my shop to accomodate my 1997 Dutch Star DP, and now need to set up the proper plug so I can have shore power when needed. My electrician has the proper plug and all that, and I told him I need only 30 amps here at home, and now he asks me: 110 or 220? To which I reply, uummmmmmmmmmmm......
any thoughts on this? Thanks Sharon
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2007 Chevy Crew Cab Pick-em-up Truck
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12-21-2008, 10:20 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Sharon,
For 30 AMP service it is 110V AC.
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12-21-2008, 11:13 AM
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Here ya go
With photos even
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12-21-2008, 11:45 AM
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Not to scare you, but the electrician should have looked on the box that the receptacle came in, or on the receptacle, It will say 125 volt, which depending on which country your in means 110-120 volts, here in the USA it's majority 120.
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12-22-2008, 07:20 AM
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Dang! Too late! My electrician wired me for 220, and when I flipped the main breaker on inside the MH, nothing happened. Then I flipped on the breaker titled "Lights," and it immediately tripped. Tried the "App" breaker, and it also immediately tripped. Did I stop here and call my guy? Nope, 'fraid not. I went thru the MH again, made sure everything was off including battery power and batt powered lights, and then went thru my sequence again. Main breaker - no problem. "Lights" breaker - I heard a "zzzzzzt" and instantly turned it off. It did not trip itself. I then gave up and called my guy, who came out promptly on this Sunday before Christmas and changed me to 110 V power. We tried to find the problem with the MH but could not, so as it stands now I have one breaker which will not stay on, but all the rest seem fine. My electrician says that his test of the wires to the "Lights" breaker indicates a short to ground someplace, but we aren't really sure where to look for it. He has unplugged all possible appliances (only have the 2 tv's and vcr). I guess I see a visit to the dealer in my future, but thought I'd check to see if anyone had any suggestions of where to look on this 1997 Dutch Star to try to locate my problem. Much obliged, Sharon
PS I think my electrician used the same 3 prong receptacle that used to work for dryers. is that bad? keep in mind how old my MH is...
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12-22-2008, 08:52 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think my electrician used the same 3 prong receptacle that used to work for dryers. is that bad? keep in mind how old my MH is... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The receptacles are different, and I don't think your power cord will fit the wrong one.
Regardless of the receptacle, the electrician goofed.
This happens far too often.
The web site SacsTC mentions is the explanation available of RV shore power wiring.
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12-22-2008, 09:06 AM
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Administrator in Memoriam
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125/250V 30A dryer receptacle
110V 30A TT-30 RV receptacle
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12-22-2008, 09:24 AM
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Thanks, Dirk. I do have the correct receptacle, it appears. And yes, my guy goofed, but, to be fair, he asked me and I was no help, so I'll accept a bit of the responsibility. I am now just hoping the result of the mistake won't be too expensive .
My poor DS...it probably regrets the day it met me! sharon
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12-22-2008, 09:27 AM
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Hey Dirk, Nice rig! What supplemental braking system do you use? sharon
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12-22-2008, 09:43 AM
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Administrator in Memoriam
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Hopefully, not too much damage was done.
I use a Brake Buddy.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> My poor DS...it probably regrets the day it met me! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dutch Stars are like your dogs, they don't carry grudges.
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12-25-2008, 03:18 PM
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I was afraid that would happen, he's the electrician and should have known better, he goofed big time by not looking at the voltage rating printed on the box and embossed on the receptacle. 240 volts on a 120 volt system not good, can get to be very expensive, Charger/converters or even worse inverters,if so equipt can be fried, microwave, refrigerator, ect. Sorry.
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12-25-2008, 03:26 PM
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Since it's the "lights" breaker, it could be the converter/charger fried at worst, or if you have any flouresent lights, a fried ballast at best. I don't know exactly on that coach what is on the "lights" breaker.
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12-25-2008, 11:40 PM
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This is one of many reasons I highly recommend a Surge Guard on the shore power at least. If this were in the circuit then no damage would have occurred when plugged into 220 volt. I hope that your damages are limited. Good luck.
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