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04-24-2022, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crasher
The M144 295/80/22.5 have a rating of 7830#, same as Michelin. The M177 does nor come in this size and has a lower capacity.
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Didnt realize that. My tires are 295-75 and 7160 lb 16 ply
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04-24-2022, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by theroc
I'm not an expert but in my opinion, the Toyo M144 is the equivalent to what you have now and should have the same specifications including the Load Range "H" or 16-ply rating and also the single axle load rating of 7,830 lbs. @ 125 psi.
Toyo M144 - specification page
edited: sorry Crasher, I was composing my post and didn't realize you had already posted the same info
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Thanks. I will look at the M144
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04-25-2022, 08:07 AM
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OP here. Is it necessary to balance the rear tires? I can save $200 by not balancing but will if it's recommended.
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04-25-2022, 09:06 AM
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Personal choice. Many will say it’s not needed but I for one balance all tires
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04-25-2022, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timjet
OP here. Is it necessary to balance the rear tires? I can save $200 by not balancing but will if it's recommended.
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When the tires are mounted, throw in a $10 bag of Equal beads. They usually get the rear wheels balanced adequately. No need for a $50 spin balance.
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04-26-2022, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crasher
The M144 295/80/22.5 have a rating of 7830#, same as Michelin. The M177 does nor come in this size and has a lower capacity.
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As you point out you must compare tires of the same size for weight capacity. A 295/80 @7830lbs is much larger than the 295/75 @ 7160lbs figurativly speaking.
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04-28-2022, 02:43 PM
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When I replaced the coach tires two years ago I also did a LOT of research and also saw a lot of comments about Michelin sidewall cracking..NOT sure that is all true but a considerable number posted about it.
I went with Toyo 295/80/22.5's with beads...all six tires and they have been great...no issues and ride great. AND, saved probably at least a grand over the Michelins with a local tire shop dealer. Very happy with them.
GL Tommy
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04-28-2022, 02:48 PM
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Tires
I ran Toyo tires on my Freightliner and thought they were as good as the Michelin that came on the truck new.
I have to qualify my answer because that was late 1970’s to Mid 80’s
Good luck with your research
Randy
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04-28-2022, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crasher
When the tires are mounted, throw in a $10 bag of Equal beads. They usually get the rear wheels balanced adequately. No need for a $50 spin balance.
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If you do balancing beads be sure to use beads specific for RV tires. For some reason the smaller diameter auto beads get caught up in the valve stem jamming it open when checking tire pressures. RV beads have to be installed through the sidewall (breaking tire bead).
My previous owner did the smaller beads. Major issue to top off tire pressures.
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04-28-2022, 03:17 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I have never regretted putting Toyo's on our coach.
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04-28-2022, 03:21 PM
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The last set of toyo I had lasted 10 years
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04-28-2022, 03:32 PM
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Michelin tires.
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Originally Posted by timjet
I'm coming up on 8 years on my Michelin Energy 295/80 R225 dulies. Base on info here and elsewhere I'm considering Toyo M144 tires. They are about $300 each cheaper. I have had excellent service with the Michelin's and have 2 newer ones on the steer tires. Any opinions?
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I just did a nationwide search for Michelin tires. I purchased from motorhometires.com and purchased Toyo tires as the Michelin tires were almost $4000 more. Several dealers in Florida were able to find Michelin tires but could not guarantee dat codes would be 9 months or less old. Motorhometires.com guarantees date codes 3/9 months.
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04-28-2022, 03:32 PM
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Forest River Owners Club
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Several years ago I replaced 275/80R22.5 LRH Michelins w/295/75R22.5 LRH Continentals ... apx .005" taller than the Michelins ... very small difference & plenty of clearance between duals. As I recall, the Continentals required apx 5psi more in each position to meet the same weight requirements. Cost difference was similar to that between Michelin & Toyo. I have replaced the Continentals at least twice since with the same ... great ride & wear. The coach is now 20 yrs old (built in May 2002) w/ apx 130k on it. Only tire that had to be replaced before its time was a Michelin w/a strange wear problem ... they gave me an "adjustment" but I could not find the Michelin replacement. That was my first pair of Continentals.
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04-28-2022, 03:33 PM
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I’ve had m144’s on my last 2 DPs, completely satisfied.
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