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Old 04-23-2022, 09:58 AM   #1
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Michelin vs Toyo Tires

I'm coming up on 8 years on my Michelin Energy 295/80 R225 dulies. Base on info here and elsewhere I'm considering Toyo M144 tires. They are about $300 each cheaper. I have had excellent service with the Michelin's and have 2 newer ones on the steer tires. Any opinions?
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I have been running Toyos for 40 years on ALL my vehicles, no problems. I had new Toyos put on our coach before I brought it home from the dealer. Although I don't have that many miles on them yet, they ride nice.
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Like many on here, I swapped my cracked Michelins for Toyos...they are doing fine.
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Old 04-23-2022, 02:27 PM   #4
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I replaced the 2012 Michelin’s in 2019 for M144a Toyos. They are doing great. Would make the same choice again easily.

I have the 315/80 size
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Old 04-23-2022, 02:38 PM   #5
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OK, thanks guys, I'll get the Toyo's and save $1200.
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^ Very smart to do. I appreciate those who don't buy into the myth that many on this forum believe that ONLY Michelin tires will keep your family and the general public safe and that any other brand of tire is putting your life and those you love at danger. Michelin is a good tire but not the only tire brand that offers safe and reliable tires.
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Don't know it this completely true but in my research for tires 4 years ago I was told that Michelin has a contract with Ford to supply all their tires for new MH. They are a size that only Michelin makes. So when you replace them you have to go to Michelin for the exact size. My Toyos were a lot cheaper and give just as good a ride.
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Old 04-23-2022, 07:10 PM   #8
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I'm coming up on 8 years on my Michelin Energy 295/80 R225 dulies. Base on info here and elsewhere I'm considering Toyo M144 tires. They are about $300 each cheaper. I have had excellent service with the Michelin's and have 2 newer ones on the steer tires. Any opinions?
Three years ago, I replaced the 295/80/22.5 Michelins with M144's and saved $2500 on eight tires. My wife said the ride was a little better. They balanced well and the ride is smooth. 30,000 miles on them now and they still look near new.
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Don't know it this completely true but in my research for tires 4 years ago I was told that Michelin has a contract with Ford to supply all their tires for new MH. They are a size that only Michelin makes. So when you replace them you have to go to Michelin for the exact size. My Toyos were a lot cheaper and give just as good a ride.
Many of the original OEM Michelin that are used coming from the manufacturer are proprietary sizes. But if replacing tires at all positions at once or on the front axle only or rear axle(s) only, then there are sizes that are what is considered "equivalent" that are so close to the Michelin size that some argue you can even mix them (I wouldn't want to mix them myself, though).

Therefore, there should be a Toyo or other brand that can be used to replace the OEM Michelin in pretty much every situation.
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Purchased my 2006 Monaco last year and saw the Michelin tires had some cracking on the sidewall. They passed the vehicle inspection to license it. The tires looked like new in the tread department. Finally found the date of manufacturing on the inside of all the tires. They are 8 years old. Got a quote for Michelin at $600 Canadian installed which I thought was ok. Going to get a quote for Toyo and if they are cheaper I may go that route since there seem to be a lot of people like the Toyo
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If you are considering Toyo I would take a look at the M177. While the M144 is a very good tire I did my research and ended up with M177
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Did a bit of looking at specs on tires to prepare for sneaker replacement. I currently have 295/80-22.5 Michelin tires. I’ve heard good feedback on Continental and Toyo tires but haven’t been able to find one of comparable size that has a similar weight rating as the Michelins. My Michelin’s have a rating of 7830. The Toyo’s have a rating of 7160 and the Continentals have a 6650 lb rating.
Also, I see the Toyo’s have two different ply and weight rating for the 11R22.5 tires. A 14 and also a 16 ply tire. The 16 ply has the weight rating of 7160.
To those that purchased the M177. Did you
replace Michelin’s? If so, how close are you
to the load capacity? Which ply rating did you purchase? Lastly, what is your steer axle weight?
I would like to consider the M177 and will weigh my Coach prior to deciding.
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Did a bit of looking at specs on tires to prepare for sneaker replacement. I currently have 295/80-22.5 Michelin tires. I’ve heard good feedback on Continental and Toyo tires but haven’t been able to find one of comparable size that has a similar weight rating as the Michelins. My Michelin’s have a rating of 7830. The Toyo’s have a rating of 7160 and the Continentals have a 6650 lb rating.
Also, I see the Toyo’s have two different ply and weight rating for the 11R22.5 tires. A 14 and also a 16 ply tire. The 16 ply has the weight rating of 7160.
To those that purchased the M177. Did you
replace Michelin’s? If so, how close are you
to the load capacity? Which ply rating did you purchase? Lastly, what is your steer axle weight?
I would like to consider the M177 and will weigh my Coach prior to deciding.
The M144 295/80/22.5 have a rating of 7830#, same as Michelin. The M177 does nor come in this size and has a lower capacity.
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Did a bit of looking at specs on tires to prepare for sneaker replacement. I currently have 295/80-22.5 Michelin tires. I’ve heard good feedback on Continental and Toyo tires but haven’t been able to find one of comparable size that has a similar weight rating as the Michelins. My Michelin’s have a rating of 7830. The Toyo’s have a rating of 7160 and the Continentals have a 6650 lb rating.
Also, I see the Toyo’s have two different ply and weight rating for the 11R22.5 tires. A 14 and also a 16 ply tire. The 16 ply has the weight rating of 7160.
To those that purchased the M177. Did you
replace Michelin’s? If so, how close are you
to the load capacity? Which ply rating did you purchase? Lastly, what is your steer axle weight?
I would like to consider the M177 and will weigh my Coach prior to deciding.
I'm not an expert but in my opinion, the Toyo M144 is the equivalent to what you have now and should have the same specifications including the Load Range "H" or 16-ply rating and also the single axle load rating of 7,830 lbs. @ 125 psi.

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edited: sorry Crasher, I was composing my post and didn't realize you had already posted the same info
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