[Mod Edit], co2, older Diesel engines

[azSkier]

I am referring to the US government's new policy to aggressively reduce co2 emissions.

I haven't found a thread about this, but this is now our reality. I think our pre-def engines are the low hanging fruit of this new policy. Maybe the feds will offer us a cash for clunkers buyout to get these engines off the road.

At a minimum, they will prevent these old engines from using the interstate system.

I expect something to happen within 3 years.

[RS505]

DEF only reduces NOx emissions. It does nothing to reduce CO2, and in fact increases it a little bit.

[TandW]

Mars' atmosphere is nearly 100% CO2 and everyone is beating a path to go there.

[FleetMan]

CO2 is necessary for photosynthesis, what are the plants going todo? Bill Gates wants to introduce man made pollutants into the-atmosphere to promote global cooling. What ever happened to that old saying of DON'T MESS WITH MOTHER NATURE?

[TandW]

Didn't know one man's bad breath could have such a drastic effect on humanity.

[K Charles]

According to the bureau of transportation the average age of an over the road truck is about 17 years old. The government won't take them all off the road, that would put a lot of people out of business.

[Bigd9]

Originally Posted by azSkier

I am referring to the US government's new policy to aggressively reduce co2 emissions.

I haven't found a thread about this, but this is now our reality. I think our pre-def engines are the low hanging fruit of this new policy. Maybe the feds will offer us a cash for clunkers buyout to get these engines off the road.

At a minimum, they will prevent these old engines from using the interstate system.

I expect something to happen within 3 years.

Why do you say this? Have you read a creditable article indicating this will happen?

[pogoil]

Where did you get your information. I think you have been drinking the current Admin. tea.

[Thewellz]

I feel this would have to be a voluntary or an incentive based program like with the EV auto industry. Where you would get money off the purchase of a new Unit through grants...or pay a carbon tax to insure the vehicle.There are just too many pre def diesel engines on the highways..these engines run 500,000 miles or more. Its a stretch to think the govt would fork out 10's of thousands of dollars to buy each person with an older diesel out of they're rig. One question would be, the cost recovery on the average DP , with regard to scrap metal, in the chassis frame and such, the labour cost to dismantle and recycle all of them, and subsequent waste.

[KenZ71]

I would think market factors will move the older engines off the road.

Once big truck fleets see the benefit and get into electric then we will see them move into RVs displacing our beloved Diesels.

[TandW]

Only when every destination is downhill from the last will EVs truly be practical.

[azSkier]

I am a co2 removal researcher. The president's stated policy , as of yesterday, is a significant reduction in co2 emissions in just 8.5 years.

I sense that my wife and I traveling around in a 23 ton motorhome just for recreation is an easy target. Naturally, They will ban RVs before they ban trucking.

I don't know of anything specific. If they are serious, they will have to be aggressive.

Thanks for the info about def.

[RS505]

I do industrial smokestack air emissions testing for a living.

This week I went on a 700 mile trip. I used about 100 gallons of fuel, and using round figures, produced about 1000 pounds of CO2.

I can't count how many plants I've been to in the last five years that emit over 10 MILLION TONS of CO2 annually. One natural gas processing plant I was at earlier this month spit out 230 tons an hour from one stack. That wasn't a combustion process either, just CO2 stripped out of the inlet gas stream.

I don't think diesel motorhomes are really on the radar. Not for air pollution/GHG anyways

[Ray,IN]

Originally Posted by RS505

I do industrial smokestack air emissions testing for a living.

This week I went on a 700 mile trip. I used about 100 gallons of fuel, and using round figures, produced about 1000 pounds of CO2.

I can't count how many plants I've been to in the last five years that emit over 10 MILLION TONS of CO2 annually. One natural gas processing plant I was at earlier this month spit out 230 tons an hour from one stack. That wasn't a combustion process either, just CO2 stripped out of the inlet gas stream.

I don't think diesel motorhomes are really on the radar. Not for air pollution/GHG anyways

I agree, OMO the sky is NOT falling.