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Old 10-02-2022, 06:37 PM   #29
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A Google for HD truck repairs Billings,mt shows lots of shops. Mid West might be interesting. If they won't work on a mh they may be able to recomend a shop. You could also call a local mh dealer and ask for a recommendation. You do not want a mh dealerto do the repair!! Hope you have a better day tomorrow.
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:00 AM   #30
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:23 AM   #31
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Find out the cost in labor to replace the engine once one has been located. That would be a constant number to include for the overall cast to be made whole. As mentioned, a rebuild, if possible, or a used engine would be my choice with a coach that age. With it being in the hands of a Cummins facility, there is no advantage in having it shipped to FL. Best of luck in an unfortunate dilemma.
I am seriously looking at a used engine. Block is cracked on the existing engine. I know so little about mechanics but do you know that a crack block yes pretty catastrophic. The Cummins dealer that I have the motorhome at is quoting such a huge number for a new engine and even a rebuild is looking at 30,000+ parts etc. I am considering having it taken to an independent. Im going to try and engines that is exactly the same as mine so the swap out would be quite simple. Any advice?
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Old 10-03-2022, 09:08 AM   #32
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I am seriously looking at a used engine. . Any advice?
Best advice I have is to check out the independent shops I suggested or also the one MO Fred suggested.

If you can't do it personally, maybe someone on this forum can suggest a shop.
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Old 10-03-2022, 12:32 PM   #33
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There are always quite a few used ISL 400’s for sale, but, it would be a miracle if any used engine would match your configuration, so, count on swapping various components off your engine, that is where a good mechanic comes in..
You can go on the Cummins site to find all info on your engine’s ESN #, CPL #, and ECM code, good luck..
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I am seriously looking at a used engine. Block is cracked on the existing engine. I know so little about mechanics but do you know that a crack block yes pretty catastrophic. The Cummins dealer that I have the motorhome at is quoting such a huge number for a new engine and even a rebuild is looking at 30,000+ parts etc. I am considering having it taken to an independent. Im going to try and engines that is exactly the same as mine so the swap out would be quite simple. Any advice?
You've received some good advise. Best bet is to locate a reliable shop in the Billings area that has done engine swaps on motorhomes. As suggested the NW Forum is a good place to start. I'm sure there is someone in the area that could help as a go-between to get you connected with a reputable Independent shop. Billings has several commercial trucking businesses, so there is more than one that should be able to help you.
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Old 10-03-2022, 03:12 PM   #35
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https://www.piercerv.com/ these are good people, I would ask them about local shops.
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I would get it out to some independent shop as others have said, and if you get a long block or used motor or rebuilt, it will not require the stealer, I mean dealer internal tech work as much. Just a motor swap.

But on the flip side I am sure the storage bill is mounting daily which will not be forgiven if you pull it out so time to make a decision!!
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Fred. He is in Montana not missouri.
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So sad.

Keep us posted on the fix.

Should be able to rebuild in unit, as long as the block is not cracked.
Everything should come out the backend.
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To the op: Did you have any luck finding a hd truck shop?
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Old 10-04-2022, 03:29 PM   #40
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RevRon, Have they confirmed the block is cracked with you via picture or some other form of verification? In my view, given the current market conditions and worker issues that mot folks are having, companies are resorting to more "blanket" statements. Case in point, several folks on this forum have had Cummins shops look at turbos and they ALWAYS recommend replacement. To the tune of ~$4,000 when it's evident to me (and some others here) that a rebuild is certainly possible or a simple part swap is possible (and MUCH cheaper). Seems to me that a cracked block is a catastrophic failure which would have presented some form of early failure indications. Blocks don't just crack. You would presumably have had an overheating issue, coolant in oil, leaks on the ground, loss of coolant, loss of oil, or some other indicator that would tell you something is wrong or going wrong. Even the 53 series Cummins (5.9L) blocks that had a known manufacturing defect where the rear of the block would crack and seep coolant were run for MANY miles and I don't think I've seen very many catastrophic failures.

As to your OP, you had a cloud of blue/gray smoke and the engine stopped. To me, a blown head gasket might do that, or you dropped an injector, or a valve, or something else.

I'm not saying it isn't toast, I just don't necessarily buy the "cracked block" story and I think it warrants further discussion with either the shop it's currently at or another independent shop prior to entertaining any discussion on repair or replacement. I just hate to see you get taken for a $40,000 ride.
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One of the problems so they think they have you over a barrel because Im in Florida and the motorhome is in billings and I know nothing about this stuff.
Im looking at pudding a used stanchion in probably 20 to 30,000 installed
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You will not be able to solve your problem by remote control. You have an expensive investment and stated that the huge expense to install a new motor is not an option. You have not seen the damage. How can you possibly stay in Florida and find a good repair shop. Be proactive. Get back to Billings. Go to Cummins and discuss the options. Visit a few repair shops . Go to a mh dealer and ask who they use for Diesel repairs. Any other choice will surely become a nightmare. I am sure there are many honest and capable shops. But when they have never seen you face to face problems can occur. Have you seen your unit since it was towed ? I would want to be present when it is towed to another shop. I was a HD service writer in my youth. Dealing with someone needing expensive repairs over the phone usually invites difficulties.
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