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Old 10-27-2017, 05:59 PM   #1
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Question Newbie looking at 2001 Newmar Dutch Star M-3852 with freight liner chassis

Hi everyone! We're still looking for a class A. We have found out that anything over 26,000 lbs requires a class B license, so we will have to get that.

Currently, I'm about to look at a 2001 Newmar Dutch Star M-3852 with a freight liner chassis. I've heard good things about the Newmars and wonder if anyone has anything in particular that we should think about with this coach.

We are new to this but have friends with a Winnebago and my sister has a 2007 Tiffin Allegro, so they've been quite the help. My sister told me to talk with all of you so here I am! Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks!
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Old 10-27-2017, 06:20 PM   #2
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Get it inspected

Asking for help here is a smart start to your search process.
I have only bought motorhomes from family members but here's how we buy used boats:

Decide how you want to use it and what's most important to you, i.e., handling ease vs. interior size. How much time are you going to spend in it? How far will you travel? Since you are buying used, look at value for the money.

Check the brand's reputation for customer service. I have had great support from Fleetwood for my 2002 Bounder. Friends have said the same thing about Tiffin.

Diesels can get "black slime" - algae- in the fuel tank. Have additives been used to prevent this? My coach's previous owner put nothing but diesel fuel in the tank. I treated it immediately when I bought it and haven't had a problem.

When you settle on a specific unit, make an offer, SUBJECT TO INSPECTION, accompanied by a refundable deposit. Go here: https://nrvia.org/inspector-locator-step-one/ and find an inspector familiar with your prospective brand.
After the inspection, make an amended offer based on inspection results, unless the inspector says it's perfect and a steal for the price

Good luck. We're all pullin' for ya.
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Old 10-27-2017, 06:38 PM   #3
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You are looking in the right place. I've owned 2 Winnebago coaches. They build a great gas coach but when it comes to Diesel pushers Newmar is by far the best in the business. Great company with outstanding customer service and support. Their coaches are well built and solid. I highly recommend them. Now the big things about buying a used coach are: Did the owner keep maintenance records and what is the tires age. If they're 7 to 10 years old they more than likely need to be replaced and that can be a $3000 to $3500 bill right off the bat. How old are the house/chassis batteries? Has there been any water intrusion or damage. Do the TVs need to be updated. These are just a few things to look at. I'm sure others on here will blog in with more info. Give us more info like mileage and engine. You'll get more information. Good luck.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:11 PM   #4
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The Dutch Star is a great coach! Now you need to find out if it has been well taken care of. Get a complete set of maintenance records and make sure all the required maintenance has been done. Get an oil and coolant analysis done - it takes about a week to get the results back. See if you can meet with the prior owners to see what kind of people they are. If you are not familiar with diesel coaches, have someone that is inspect it.
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:27 PM   #5
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Newmar makes a great DP. I love my Dutch Star.
If you are seriously looking at this MH I would suggest that you get a certified RV tech and have him inspect the entire unit. If there are any issues with it he'll point them out and it will help you make the decision to buy, or not.
You can also use him to explain some of the systems you may not know about. It's money well spent.
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:45 PM   #6
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Welcome to irv2.
We have many older newmar coach owners on the road.
I am going to give you some links from another thread I did for someone the links will provide you access to important info for any Newmar you maybe interested in.
Good luck in your hunt and maybe a welcome to the Newmar family.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:14 AM   #7
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Once you find a MH you are interested in, get professional inspections done. If you don't do this BEFORE you purchase, you run the risk of spending significantly more AFTER the purchase. If something is found, the inspector should be able to give you an estimate to repair. You can then decide if you want to proceed and can use it to negotiate a better price. You will be going into it with your eyes open. IF nothing is found, GREAT!!

I would suggest that you get an independent certified RV mechanic to inspect all the RV systems, including the roof. In addition I would have the engine, transmission, frame, etc. inspected by a diesel service shop. Having a coolant and oil analysis by a lab (like JG Lubricants ) would reveal any hidden problems.

Make sure everything is in writing!! Any purchase should be contingent upon successfully passing these inspections/tests.

I would do this to any used MH I was looking to buy.

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Old 10-28-2017, 08:57 PM   #8
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One piece of advice is where you want the radiator. Spartan chassis coaches use a side-mount radiator. This means that the engine is way more accessible--really important IMHO. I also recommend that you try to get all of the work receipts and documentation you can. Engine and transmission oil analysis are also important.
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Old 10-29-2017, 02:23 PM   #9
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You say your looking for a DP but back in the 2000's Newmar used a Workhorse gas chassis the heavery w-24.5 chassis maybe it was 25.5 with a Chev 8.1 engine and Allison transmission could not be beat.
They even made a rear engine gas coach UFO chassis same weight class that people wish they were making now, both of these chassis's were 26,000 pounds and did not need special licence to drive in most states.
We were very happy with our W-22 fully loaded coach.
You can see interior of my coach at the end of the 1 & 2 link below.
There are mid-engine DP's in classifieds up top entry border 2 I think which is a other hot Newmar coach.
Have fun and good luck in search. All the coach's and info are in the tsb link I gave you.
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Hope you find the perfect rig for your needs!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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