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Old 05-03-2021, 03:12 PM   #1
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Hello All, I am new to this forum, and have a question about my 2003 F-53 Gulfstream. A few years ago, the ignition key suddenly would not start the engine. It had full power and electrical but nothing in the start position. I had to resort to adding a remote start button connected to the starter solenoid. At the same time, the back up camera stopped coming on when placed in reverse, it will turn manually. I have been told to replace the starter relay, but have not been able to actually locate it. Has anyone experienced this situation before?
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Old 05-03-2021, 03:23 PM   #2
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Welcome to the IRV2 Website! I suspect you need a new "Neutral Safety Switch". This switch prevents starting of the engine when not in park or neutral, and also controls the backup lights when in reverse (I would check and see if they work, I doubt it) and in the case of reverse that switch that powers the reverse lights also is commonly where the power for the backup camera comes from (when not manually selected). When this switch fails, commonly you can't start the engine in park or neutral, sometimes you can in another gear shift position, and commonly the reverse lights (and your cameras) will not turn on in reverse. The first item on this page is likely what you need, installing it could be an issue if you don't have the tools or mechanically inclined, however if you are, the switch isn't that hard to change (assuming you can easily get to it, it being the side of the transmission where the shift lever connects). ~Craig

BTW, I just noticed it was out of stock, you may have to search and call around to find one. :(
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Thanks for the reply. I have tried to look for a neutral safety switch on side of transmission. All I can find is a group of wires, about 12 of them connecting into the side of transmission. Do you have any idea of where else to look? I have tried looking on steering column with no luck. Thanks again
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Old 05-06-2021, 07:36 PM   #4
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The transmission position switch is on the left side of the trans where the shifter attaches. The other relay for the starter is on the passenger side radiator cradle, probably best accessed from the front passenger wheel well. That would not affect your camera but will prevent the starting if it fails.
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You are probably looking in the correct place. By looking at the switch itself, it should be on the drivers side of the transmission where the shift lever connects to the transmission and commonly under a shield plate to protect it. They are not too hard to change, but a service manual would certainly be of value. If you like, take a picture of the wires you see and perhaps that would help. Also, if you install this you will need to be sure to align it correctly which the how to do that would also be in the service manual. This video is likely similar to yours and shows the switch that I am referring to. ~Craig
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Thanks again for the information. When all the snow melts from around the rv I will crawl under it and see what I can find.
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