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02-14-2020, 09:35 AM
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#71
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7
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On road repair costs
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Originally Posted by Darin1960
This is why I replaced mine, would you share you cost after all repairs, tow and everything?
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I didn’t need a tow as I was able to limp off of I-95 in low gear to the truck repair shop. I ended up paying 3 shops over $1200. The first one replaced the linkage. The second replaced the airbag and the third replaced the speed sensor. That doesn’t count the money spent on the hotel or time and money spent on driving the 700 miles to Vermont then returning to retrieve the coach weeks later. Preventative maintenance is much less expensive and much less hassle.
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02-14-2020, 10:28 AM
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#72
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moconno
I didn’t need a tow as I was able to limp off of I-95 in low gear to the truck repair shop. I ended up paying 3 shops over $1200. The first one replaced the linkage. The second replaced the airbag and the third replaced the speed sensor. That doesn’t count the money spent on the hotel or time and money spent on driving the 700 miles to Vermont then returning to retrieve the coach weeks later. Preventative maintenance is much less expensive and much less hassle.
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Wow, that's sad especially the fact you ( assuming ) ruined your vacation or trip and had to make a extra 1400 mile trip.
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02-14-2020, 12:39 PM
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#73
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 38
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2002 Dutch Star
I have a 2002 Dutch Star with about 75,000 miles. Our local Spartan shop does an annual inspection and required PM. Rear bags replaced last summer due to leak. Their advice is to replace when they develop a leak.
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02-14-2020, 06:48 PM
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#74
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Tucson
Posts: 421
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I had to different coaches on Spartan chassis that developed a rear airbag leak. The first sign is a long air up time. If the leak is bad enough you will be able to hear it.
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02-15-2020, 05:16 AM
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#75
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Balls Creek NC
Posts: 251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moconno
I didn’t need a tow as I was able to limp off of I-95 in low gear to the truck repair shop. I ended up paying 3 shops over $1200. The first one replaced the linkage. The second replaced the airbag and the third replaced the speed sensor. That doesn’t count the money spent on the hotel or time and money spent on driving the 700 miles to Vermont then returning to retrieve the coach weeks later. Preventative maintenance is much less expensive and much less hassle.
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The aggravation part is the big issue IMHO. You're on vacation and then something like this happens. On top of that you are a long way from home and finding a good shop that is not going to take advantage of you is problematic. I'm glad everything worked out for you. With our motor homes it is a lifestyle that needs constant attention, and even with that things can happen.
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02-15-2020, 04:16 PM
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#76
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 27,628
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRA225
1992 American- original Air Bags- Minor Checking on the surface- No leaks @ 238 K Miles- Why are there so many Air Bag changes on here ?
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My guess, paranoia. I venture to guess no commercial bus company has air springs changed, "just-in-case", but only for valid reason.
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02-15-2020, 05:32 PM
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#77
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 29
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Not about air bags
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Originally Posted by jcussen
Had a 62 GMC bus conversion I sold a couple of years ago, about 1000000 miles total. Still had original airbags. Have heard of bags with slow leaks, but never one blowing out. If you cut an old one in half, you will find the walls are reinforced and about a half inch thick.
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Hi just wondering when you have inverters does the motor have to be running
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02-15-2020, 07:03 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 2,813
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Originally Posted by Grampa 8943
Hi just wondering when you have inverters does the motor have to be running
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Not sure what you asking, if about power inverters, they run off batteries to produce 120 volts. When engine runs, alternator charges batteries. If you do not draw too much power from batteries, engine does not have to be running, batteries will charge up next time you run the engine.
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02-15-2020, 10:01 PM
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 419
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
My guess, paranoia. I venture to guess no commercial bus company has air springs changed, "just-in-case", but only for valid reason.
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Call it what you want but Firestone recommends replacement when age cracks are present so not so sure it is paranoia. They definitely dont last forever so I would rather replace at home than deal with it on a trip. Just wondering and I promise I am only curious , how long do you think they will last, not talking miles but age? Mine were 17 and had quite a bit of cracking on the bottom and checking all over in various places.
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02-15-2020, 10:10 PM
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#80
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 27,628
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darin1960
Call it what you want but Firestone recommends replacement when age cracks are present so not so sure it is paranoia. They definitely dont last forever so I would rather replace at home than deal with it on a trip. Just wondering and I promise I am only curious , how long do you think they will last, not talking miles but age? Mine were 17 and had quite a bit of cracking on the bottom and checking all over in various places.
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I have no idea how long air springs will last. Mine are 32 yrs old now, there are NO cracks or wrinkles on them. Our MH is always parked inside our RV garage when unused,leveling jacks deployed air springs deflated.
I have never used any product on them,just spray the underside I can reach with my pressure washer once a year.
I hope I haven't jinked myself now.
The bottom line is, do whatever you are comfortable with. I would not enjoy traveling when constantly on edge something might fail.
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02-15-2020, 10:15 PM
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#81
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 27,628
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darin1960
Call it what you want but Firestone recommends replacement when age cracks are present so not so sure it is paranoia. They definitely dont last forever so I would rather replace at home than deal with it on a trip. Just wondering and I promise I am only curious , how long do you think they will last, not talking miles but age? Mine were 17 and had quite a bit of cracking on the bottom and checking all over in various places.
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I have no idea how long air springs will last. Mine are 21 yrs old now,(1999 Spartan chassis) there are NO cracks or wrinkles on them. Our MH is always parked inside our RV garage when unused,leveling jacks deployed air springs deflated.
I have never used any product on them,just spray the underside I can reach with my pressure washer once a year.
I hope I haven't jinked myself now. 
Bottom line: each person must make their own decision based on their comfort level. No-one is wrong is these situations. I will state, I would not travel when I was constantly on edge something might fail_ because, eventually everything made by man fails.
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02-15-2020, 10:22 PM
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#82
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,400
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We have some FT friends that have a Thor 2014 40' Tuscany DP and they had to have ALL their air bags replaced 3 months ago. I couldn't believe it. They should of lasted a whole lot longer. They were covered by their extended warranty with a $500 deductible and a lot of down time, hassle and a trip to the factory in IN to have them replaced.
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02-15-2020, 11:25 PM
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#83
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 2,813
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
I have no idea how long air springs will last. Mine are 21 yrs old now,(1999 Spartan chassis) there are NO cracks or wrinkles on them. Our MH is always parked inside our RV garage when unused,leveling jacks deployed air springs deflated.
I have never used any product on them,just spray the underside I can reach with my pressure washer once a year.
I hope I haven't jinked myself now. 
Bottom line: each person must make their own decision based on their comfort level. No-one is wrong is these situations. I will state, I would not travel when I was constantly on edge something might fail_ because, eventually everything made by man fails.
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Agree, some will just throw money into the hole in the driveway, but something else will always break. Got a buddy that read on some forum that batteries fail in 4 years, so he spends $1500 every 3 years. Got another buddy that has not driven his coach in 3 years because he is afraid of what could happen. Go figure. Proactive to me is oil and filter changes, 6 year tire changes, 4 year air filter/dryer changes, 2 year air filter changes, the rest as required when they show problems.
RVing is not for the faint of heart.
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02-16-2020, 04:01 AM
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#84
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,183
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Looks like Grease monkey changes
Them every 60 to 70 years Regardless if they are leaking or not
Maybe the quality was better in the 40s and 50s ???
For many things ??? Ha 
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