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Old 01-14-2020, 11:43 PM   #1
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Placed my offer, now we wait.......

Well, I finally pulled the trigger and placed a firm offer. It's a 2005 Newmar Mountain Aire 43' tag axle, 400HP Cummins. Interior is the floor plan we want, it's been very well cared for. Less than 70,000 miles on it. I based my offer on verified sales figures for two identical coaches on the PPL site. Both sold for 11% less than his asking price. I lowered my offer by 5,000 from those sales prices based upon one of the sold RV's having 25% less mileage and the other having 50% less than this one. All told my offer came in at 16% less than asking price. Not sure if he'll accept or not. He's a cool guy, either way I wish him luck. This one has a couple of repairable boogers on it, all on the outside. Clear coat lifting in a couple of places. Main slide toppers removed. Not sure why, but they'll be replaced. If he accepts the offer price, professional inspection to follow.
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Good Luck

Good luck with the purchase. May she turn out to be the RV that you hope she is... You’ve thought this through.

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Bon Chance!

I've been following your journey and was almost going to send you a PM to see what your status was on selecting a coach. Once you complete the bargaining process, the real adventure begins. Remember that no coach is perfect and things will break or need attention over time.

Standing by to read (and perhaps contribute towards) the 100 plus one questions you are going to have.
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I'm most interested in what you choose to do as far as inspection goes. I hope you're able to share specifics (costs, etc.). As far as the engine goes it seems like you're better off having a knowledgeable mechanic give it a general look than relying on the fluid analysis.
It appears you're going through a private sale? So far is it just on a hand shake?
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:11 AM   #5
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I'm hopeful he will accept the offer, but I'm not confident he will. Both examples I found of actual confirmed sales were at $84k. Both examples were sold in 2018, so the coaches were each 1.5 years newer when they were sold. One had 50000 miles when sold. One had 30000 on it at time of sale. NADA valuation is $73K low retail and $88K high retail. The average of that is $80.5K, which essentially validates the $84K selling prices of the two RV's above. It all ties in nicely.



Ask on this one I am offering on was $94K. I don't know where he got that number from. Based on the fact that this coach in question is now 1.5 years older than the above two confirmed actual sales and has 60K+ miles on it, and has some appearance issues that need to be addressed, I offered $79K, which is a significant drop from his ask. I 'm not confident that he will go that far below his asking price, and I sure as heck don't see any way to go much higher. I just don't see where he got his asking price from. It's his RV and he can ask what he wants, of course. I just see nothing to "justify" this asking price other than the asking price of similar coaches, none of which are selling at that price either.



I'm not confident on this one at all. I guess we'll just see what if anything he comes back with.
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I suspect the seller picked $94K with $88 or 89K being his selling price. That's what I would have done. At the very least, 10% below asking. After several months of listing and no serious offers, I would rethink my numbers. On the other side, if I were buying and I found just what I wanted, I would negotiate and pay whatever it took to make the purchase. If you get what you want, what difference does a few thousand make after several years of use and enjoyment? Obviously, the final decision would be based on a thorough inspection. I just jump in and start enjoying the experience.
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Fingers crossed it all works out. If you are in the ballpark he will either accept or return with a reasonable counter offer.

The offer may change depending on the results of the inspection.

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Looks nice from what I can tell on rvtrader. I would think something in 80's is going to get it.
I'm looking at similar MH's. I guess I thought the interior ht was 84.
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I guess I thought the interior ht was 84.
I don't understand what you mean here.
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I don't understand what you mean here.
Most new MH's have an interior height of 84" or 7'. It looks like the 2005 MA you're looking at is 80". Not a big deal just something for me to remember as I'm looking. I'm tall but 80 isn't that bad.
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Good luck

Hope you got it. Waiting.
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Most new MH's have an interior height of 84" or 7'. It looks like the 2005 MA you're looking at is 80". Not a big deal just something for me to remember as I'm looking. I'm tall but 80 isn't that bad.
I'm only 5'9" and my wife is only 5', so ceiling height never even entered my mind!
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Waiting.
Same here......
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You just never know how much a seller wants to sell. It's fun if you're not in a hurry.
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