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View Poll Results: How well do your headlights work and does that affect your driving?
I have great headlights now so making them better won't change my driving times. 60 32.09%
I drive few miles at night but would more if the headlights were much better illumination. 37 19.79%
I don't drive many miles no matter the time as the RV stays where it is. 5 2.67%
I drive 0 - 10% miles at night because my headlights are really bad. 49 26.20%
I drive 11-25% miles at night. 40 21.39%
I drive 26 - 50% miles at night. 15 8.02%
Most of my driving is at night. 3 1.60%
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Old 08-08-2020, 04:14 PM   #29
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I upgraded our headlight bulbs and added some nice LED driving lights. Maybe used them once or twice.


Not an issue of visibility.


Fact is, I am very tied to the sun. First hint of daylight and I am ready to roll. Sun dips beneath the horizon, and it is time for a sofa or chair.

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Yes....you need one more category....people that don't drive at night, no matter what the lighting situation is.

The lighting issue has more to do with the position of the driver in Class A motor homes than anything else. Think about it, Class C's and truck campers don't have the issue, as you sit behind the headlights, just like a car. Most headlight assemblies in Class A RV's come from cars. They worked fine in the cars.

In a Class A, you're well above the headlights looking down at an angle over them. In a car, you're sitting behind them, looking over the top of them.

Adding LED's to a lens designed for a standard halogen bulb, really doesn't help. LED's in a standard lens, just scatter a lot of light in front of the RV, looking brighter, but adding no value unless you intend to only drive about 15mph. They don't add lighting down the road, where you need it at night, unless you install them in a "focused" lens (fisheye type) like you see on new cars.

If you want to improve your down the road lighting, add some driving lights down low. I added Hella driving lights years ago and was finally able to see the road at 65mph.

Almost all Class A RV's use a headlight assembly from an automobile like a Ford or Buick. Replace your lenses with an aftermarket lens that has converted that Ford or Buick lens to a fisheye type that will accept LED's or HID bulbs.
I added halogen “pencils beams” to most of my Harleys and they helped considerably. Driving lights seem like the most logical answer, with due consideration of course to other drivers and vehicle codes.....
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Old 08-08-2020, 08:28 PM   #31
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My headlights were horrible when I first purchased our Damon. Had to use the high beams, and that was still marginal at best. Put LED bulbs in, and properly aimed the lights, and viola, great driving lights at night.
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Well Gang,
Been driving at night for decades. It's just not that big of a deal with me. In fact, when we have certain trips planned, I will leave AT MIDNIGHT on purpose. The prime reason(s) is/are, there's little to ZERO traffic. I have entered the 15 northbound down in San Diego at midnight and have seen almost zero cars in back of me and in front of me.

It's like that for miles and miles. In fact, when traveling from San Diego to the Sierra Mtns in eastern CA and western NV, I won't see any discernable traffic 'till almost 06:00 in the morning and that's just shy of Bishop. That makes for some very pleasurable driving in my book. I don't have any problem with eyesight and or headlights. My headlights are not the best by far but, they work good enough. We'd all like to have better headlights but, as most of us know, there's not all that much thought put into the headlight system on about 98% of the RV's made.

So, that's my 2 cents.
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it just occurred to me that I can probably very easily find performance driving light to replace my fog lights. They are already switch and about 3” diameter. And since the low beams are pretty low already, while they may suck for driving at night, they will probably do just fine as fog lights.

I want to be able to light up enough distance ahead of me so I’m not out driving my lights (the reason I put driving lights on my road bikes). I’m fine with slowing down to 55-60 at night and I use the lights of vehicles in front of me and, to a degree, on coming traffic, but I need something to light it up when it’s just me out there in the middle of the night.

So any suggestions would be welcome. I’ll go out and measure and examine my fog lights when it’s light out. 02:46 am right now. Not a bad time to be on the road......
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my class A lights were horrible and I would not drive at night. My class C lights are awesome and I would drive it around the clock.
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my class A lights were horrible and I would not drive at night. My class C lights are awesome and I would drive it around the clock.
Both my class C rigs had perfectly acceptable lights too and I also drove through the night just taking sleep breaks for a few hours to get across the country. Did eastern Ohio from Ca in two days, NY state in 3. Wouldnít happen in the Bay Star - still donít know about the Ventana, but as I mentioned earlier, the presence of fog lights makes the idea of driving lights seem like an easy mod.
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it just occurred to me that I can probably very easily find performance driving light to replace my fog lights. They are already switch and about 3Ē diameter. And since the low beams are pretty low already, while they may suck for driving at night, they will probably do just fine as fog lights.

I want to be able to light up enough distance ahead of me so Iím not out driving my lights (the reason I put driving lights on my road bikes). Iím fine with slowing down to 55-60 at night and I use the lights of vehicles in front of me and, to a degree, on coming traffic, but I need something to light it up when itís just me out there in the middle of the night.

So any suggestions would be welcome. Iíll go out and measure and examine my fog lights when itís light out. 02:46 am right now. Not a bad time to be on the road......
Properly aim your headlights, and replace the crappy halogen bulbs with LED
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Iíve never driven at night in 2.5 years of ownership. I have driven early morning before sun up. I upgraded my headlights from the crappy OEM ones from China.
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Iíve never driven at night in 2.5 years of ownership. I have driven early morning before sun up. I upgraded my headlights from the crappy OEM ones from China.
BTW, most of the best aftermarket lights are also from China.
And also the mid priced stuff.

It's not the country, it's whether you are buying the good stuff or the not so good stuff.

They are at the point where they can make whatever they want to, at any quality level. You can't get this kind of stuff made in America.
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Like a few others on this thread I didn't vote as none of the choices suited me. I never drive at night & that's by choice. If my headlamps were as perfect as my auto it wouldn't change a thing.
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BTW, most of the best aftermarket lights are also from China.
And also the mid priced stuff.

It's not the country, it's whether you are buying the good stuff or the not so good stuff.

They are at the point where they can make whatever they want to, at any quality level. You can't get this kind of stuff made in America.
Good point. I meant no disrespect toward China. They make a lot of good stuff too. Itís likely the lamps I bought were made in China. Iím more upset with Monaco for installing such low quality head lamps in an expensive coach.
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Good point. I meant no disrespect toward China. They make a lot of good stuff too. It’s likely the lamps I bought were made in China. I’m more upset with Monaco for installing such low quality head lamps in an expensive coach.
No prob.
Yes, the thread was started because of how many folks have posted about headlight problems, questions, upgrades. I was just curious on as a percentage is it significant of all owners. The Poll results so far is saying its very significant. Over Half of respondents (quick look).

So, lets list places we find fixes.
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http://theretrofitsource.com
that's where I bought the majority of my lighting components. They treated me excellent and provided high quality components (most made in China ) But wasn't cheap. But good seldom is.

https://www.jwspeaker.com/products/j...xoCPHQQAvD_BwE
Another place that has good stuff.
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I have a 2006 Holiday Rambler with those really small round headlights. They were ultra modern at the time but they don't put out much light at all!!! I wish I could find something that would brighten them up. The lenses are not cloudy. But the whole light is only about 3" in diameter. Wonder how I could fix this?
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