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07-15-2018, 11:51 AM
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Propane Tee Help
I just installed a camco 4port tee on my class a
Here is my problem
The grill is still to close to the motorhome if I run it underneath coach and i can find a 1 inch male and female plug thats longer then 12 feet
Also i want to do the propane fire pit and i cant find any with a regulator hose that i can use
thanks for the help
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07-15-2018, 12:22 PM
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Two extension hoses. That's what I did.
If it's a bought firepit, I would think the regulator would come with it/be built in.
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07-16-2018, 07:05 AM
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can you do 2 extensions together
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07-16-2018, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jarata
can you do 2 extensions together
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I did, works great.
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07-16-2018, 07:38 AM
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On my coach (and coaches with built in propane appliances) the regulator is located at the coach's propane tank (built into coach). When you tee off an existing propane line you are already getting regulated pressure.
So you need to remove the regulator that is on your grill or fire pit (when that grill or fire pit is designed to run off a propane bottle).
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07-16-2018, 07:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
On my coach (and coaches with built in propane appliances) the regulator is located at the coach's propane tank (built into coach). When you tee off an existing propane line you are already getting regulated pressure.
So you need to remove the regulator that is on your grill or fire pit (when that grill or fire pit is designed to run off a propane bottle).
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If he used the same tee as I did, it goes before the regulator. It allows you to add a portable tank to use with your house system (so the portable tank will run through the regulator also) and then has a hookup for a grill or what have you (that isn't regulated as it is before the regulator).
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07-16-2018, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
On my coach (and coaches with built in propane appliances) the regulator is located at the coach's propane tank (built into coach). When you tee off an existing propane line you are already getting regulated pressure.
So you need to remove the regulator that is on your grill or fire pit (when that grill or fire pit is designed to run off a propane bottle).
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Any tee for outside appliances should be put before the regulator and use its own regulation they generally operate at higher pressure then indoor appliances.
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07-16-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MotorPro
Any tee for outside appliances should be put before the regulator and use its own regulation they generally operate at higher pressure then indoor appliances.
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The Coach's inside cooktop/grill uses the same pressure as an outdoor grill/appliance.
If you want to use an "Extend-A-Stay fitting, its different - but to just connect an outside grill to the coach's propane tank this works fine.
There are a ton of videos on this. Such as I removed the regulator on the Coleman grill and installed a quick disconnect fitting. I have a 20 foot hose connected to my coach propane system (connected after the regulator) so the Coleman grill receives the same low pressure as the internal cooktop (and refrigerator, if I had a propane fridge). I have the same setup for my Fire Pit.
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07-16-2018, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
The Coach's inside cooktop/grill uses the same pressure as an outdoor grill/appliance.
If you want to use an "Extend-A-Stay fitting, its different - but to just connect an outside grill to the coach's propane tank this works fine.
There are a ton of videos on this. Such as I removed the regulator on the Coleman grill and installed a quick disconnect fitting. I have a 20 foot hose connected to my coach propane system (connected after the regulator) so the Coleman grill receives the same low pressure as the internal cooktop (and refrigerator, if I had a propane fridge). I have the same setup for my Fire Pit.
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There are several ways to connect outside appliances to the RV system and this^^ is definitely an option. If the main tank of the RV is on the driver's side, tapping into a house line on the passenger side makes things easier.
As mentioned, the pressure for the house appliances is 11" WC, which is the same pressure required for outdoor grilles, fire pits, and other accessories which reduce the pressure with their own regulators. Each needs to be modified by removing the appliance regulator. The downside would be the appliance could now only be used with the RV or some other similar 11"WC connection.
To the OP: The suggestion to use two extensions is the simplest solution and requires nothing more than the purchase of two hoses.
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07-16-2018, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
On my coach (and coaches with built in propane appliances) the regulator is located at the coach's propane tank (built into coach). When you tee off an existing propane line you are already getting regulated pressure.
So you need to remove the regulator that is on your grill or fire pit (when that grill or fire pit is designed to run off a propane bottle).
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As others have posted, this is very bad advice and suggests doing something that at the very least will damage the appliance and at worst create a very dangerous situation and can lead to a disaster...ie putting propane under several hundred psi of pressure into one built to withstand less than 1.0 psi. I would suggest the post be removed.
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07-16-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rambeau
a very dangerous situation and can lead to a disaster...ie putting propane under several hundred psi of pressure into one built to withstand less than 1.0 psi. I would suggest the post be removed.
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What are you talking about?
There is no high pressure involved. The coach's regulator lowers the pressure to the safe/required levels. It's no more dangerous than using the built in propane grill in your coach's kitchen.
There are dozens of posts of people doing it this way. No one has ever posted of any issues or problems ...
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07-16-2018, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambeau
As others have posted, this is very bad advice and suggests doing something that at the very least will damage the appliance and at worst create a very dangerous situation and can lead to a disaster...ie putting propane under several hundred psi of pressure into one built to withstand less than 1.0 psi. I would suggest the post be removed.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
What are you talking about?
There is no high pressure involved. The coach's regulator lowers the pressure to the safe/required levels. It's no more dangerous than using the built in propane grill in your coach's kitchen.
There are dozens of posts of people doing it this way. No one has ever posted of any issues or problems ...
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Yes, I believe Rambeau misread your original post--the part where you state, " When you tee off an existing propane line you are already getting regulated pressure." That regulated pressure is 11"WC or 0.4 psi.
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07-16-2018, 12:49 PM
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the fire pit has a hose with a regulator on it thats connects to a 20lb tank what i want to do is work of the tee which is before the regulator on the propane tank of my coach so i would think i need a regulator somewhere
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07-16-2018, 01:02 PM
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Can you just use the regulator that is already on the Fire Pit hose?
I'm thinking that that hose that connects to the propane bottle could have an adapter installed so you can use your extension hose from the coach. Then the "unregulated" propane from coach will go through the regulator already on the Fire Pit hose.
See these adapters
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