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Old 11-24-2021, 09:29 AM   #1
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Replacement Engine Cost

I was at the Freightliner getting my yearly oil change and they had a 500HP engine setting on a stand in the waiting room. I have said before you need to have access to 35,000 if you own a DP just incase you need a engine or major repair/replacement.

They said installation and misc would be between 5,000 and 10,000 dollars.
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:45 AM   #2
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That's like 45,000 here plus R&R and you would be at 50,000 or more!
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OOF!

For that price I'd figure out a way to R&R mine myself. A Cummins rebuild is not really that complex. I wouldn't touch a Detroit. Too complicated for my taste. The weight of these motors is nothing to sneeze at though so that would make it difficult purely from a maneuverability standpoint.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:19 AM   #4
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Why buy an old series 60 engine? For that kind of money you could have the newer DD engine which is I'm told the most popular semi truck engine today.

Besides you may need to change the transmission as well depending on what you have at present.
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Note the fine print.
For an extra $500 you can buy a warranty - but then must also it have it installed by authorized DD shop (so another $5K).
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...and that's why a typical diesel pusher costs about $50K more than a typical gas engined unit.
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Being a retired fireman after 30+ years, the Detroit series 60 was all we used and spec'd out in oh, maybe the last 40-50 new fire trucks before I retired. They were outstanding engines. Very, very little troubles. The regular fire engines, had 425 HP Detroits. Whereas, the ladder trucks, had the 500HP versions. Again, GREAT engines. I'd have one in a heartbeat over my CAT C-7 and my C-7 runs flawlessly. But, as the price indicates, that just ain't gonna happen.
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The Detroit Series 60 was discontinued in 2007.
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Series 60. Thatís a million mile engine!
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I've read recently of a Cummins engine repair that cost $15,000. But also am following the thread of a guy who just bought an engine and he's doing the swap himself. Fun stories but wouldn't want to do it myself.

Had a 5.9 '94 Cummins drop a valve on top of a piston 7 years ago and that cost me $5,000 for a head rework and piston kit at a truck shop. Wouldn't look forward to that again. This Cat 3126 I have now is highly regarded though so I'm hoping...
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The Detroit Series 60 was discontinued in 2007.
Are you sure? I think the 14Liter 60-series ran through 2011. I saw something about them switching to the DDEC VI series ECM in 2008.
I think it was only the 11.1L and 12.7L models that were discontinued in 2007.
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Are you sure? I think the 14Liter 60-series ran through 2011. I saw something about them switching to the DDEC VI series ECM in 2008.
I think it was only the 11.1L and 12.7L models that were discontinued in 2007.
Take your pick:

When did Detroit Diesel stop making diesel engines?

Detroit Diesel quit producing it in 1998, and the favorite engine became the 12.7L. While both engines were favored by buses and coaches, they were also used in other applications. The 12.7L was produced for many years, finally being discontinued in 2007. The 14.0L was the most different of the three sizes.

When did Detroit stop using the series 60 engine?

In 2011 the series 60 engine was discontinued and replaced by the DD15 engine. The most popular on-highway Detroit Diesel engine was the 12.7-liter, and on-highway engines are electronically-controlled by the proprietary Detroit Diesel Electronic Control (DDEC) system. The 12.7L engine was favored in buses for its better fuel consumption.

In*2007*the 12.7-liter*Detroit Diesel*Series 60*was discontinued. Once the 12.7-liter Series 60 was discontinued, the 14-liter Series 60 replaced it. By 2008, Detroit Diesel had produced one million Series 60 engines.
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I think the cost of a total rebuild is beyond the average RV'ers thought process.

New engines of a decent size are expensive, rebuilds can run 2/3rds the cost of new.
When I managed mines we had engines rebuilt or replaces monthly, the cost of doing business. When an engine started causing problems we'd send it in for a quote. At the time we were using quite a few Deutz and Cat engines. We'd get a quote for rebuild and then decide whether to rebuild or replace. Engines are not cheap and at the time (~20 years ago) shop labor was probably $125/hour.

So now when reports of the cost of a rebuild are posted it really doesn't surprise me.

My recommendation is to spend money up front on maintenance and preventative maintenance. It's probably cheaper to repair a problem when it first stars showing symptoms versus repairing at failure.



Either way, a large contingency fund is needed in case of any problems.
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I've read recently of a Cummins engine repair that cost $15,000. But also am following the thread of a guy who just bought an engine and he's doing the swap himself. Fun stories but wouldn't want to do it myself.

Had a 5.9 '94 Cummins drop a valve on top of a piston 7 years ago and that cost me $5,000 for a head rework and piston kit at a truck shop. Wouldn't look forward to that again. This Cat 3126 I have now is highly regarded though so I'm hoping...
I paid $31,000 for a new head, valves, pistons, liners and rod bearings in my ISX 650 in my motorhome.
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