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11-04-2018, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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RV Accident
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11-04-2018, 01:12 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt_1111
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I dont believe the RV caused the accident because the RV does not drive itself, at least not yet. The correct phrase woud be RV driver caused accident and even then we need to know what happened. I can't count the number of times a car passed me and entered in front too close some times slaming on the brakes because the traffic ahead is slowing down. So unless the RV drives itself I do not believe the RV caused the accident.
This is only my oppinion so don't get mad at me for saying this
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11-04-2018, 01:16 PM
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Community Moderator
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"the driver of the RV, who caused the crash, acknowledged he couldn't stop quickly enough."
It didn't say if he towed a car behind and if he had a supplemental brake in place.
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11-04-2018, 01:21 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Spartan Chassis
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And if you think there aren’t a lot of “free loaders” driving down the road, looking for the “ rich folks” in the big RVs you are really naive. I had a minor dent in a Wal Mart lot. Cost the insurance company $40,000. I give everyone a LOT of extra rom, now. Patience Patience Patience...every time I turn the key.
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11-04-2018, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryFit
"the driver of the RV, who caused the crash, acknowledged he couldn't stop quickly enough."
It didn't say if he towed a car behind and if he had a supplemental brake in place.
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One picture looked like a toad behind the RV.
Tom
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11-04-2018, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryFit
"the driver of the RV, who caused the crash, acknowledged he couldn't stop quickly enough."
It didn't say if he towed a car behind and if he had a supplemental brake in place.
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Yes The driver of the RV not the RV caused the crash. He coundn't stop the RV, lets not blame the RV for rhe accident, unless the RV took over and decided not to stop.
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11-04-2018, 01:41 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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Touchy crowd. Actually I was wondering if the DRIVER of the RV had a dash cam. I had to stop quick because a somebody passing and cutting me off.
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11-04-2018, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
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Location: Florida
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No
RV lovers. And blaming a human error on a RV is not correct, from my point of view. And like I said before this is my oppinion.
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11-04-2018, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt_1111
Touchy crowd.
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Sometimes a ridiculous crowd.
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11-04-2018, 01:48 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
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Wow now whoo is the touchy one. Lets keep our cool guys this is just a chat.
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11-04-2018, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
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You all have a great Sunday this conversation is getting out of control.
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11-04-2018, 02:07 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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It would be interesting to know if the 3 year old was in an infant seat
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11-04-2018, 02:26 PM
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I have driven up and down Monument Hill many times. Mostly in a car but several times in my Class A. The traffic is always heavy and fast. The speed limit is 75mph and most drivers are doing 5 to 15 mph faster. The 20%ers of the 80/20 Rule are tailgating and lane weaving. It is almost impossible to maintain a safe following distance even in a car. As soon as a car driven by a 20%er passes an RV driving in the right lane he will pass on the left and immediately cut into the right lane taking away the RVer's safe following distance.
At the bottom of the hill southbound traffic frequently comes to a complete stop due to busy freeway interchange traffic. Most drivers who are not looking far enough down the road are surprised and have to brake aggressively from 75+ mph to get stopped in time to avoid rear ending tail end Charlie. They usually make it on dry pavement but when it's wet, as in this case, all bets are off.
The damage to the coach appears to be very similar to the damage to my coach when I collided with a Ford Escape whose driver turned in front of me a month ago yesterday. I got it slowed down from an estimated 30mph to an estimated 10mph at the collision. I really feel sorry for the RVer as he now has to go through the hell I have been going through the last month with no end in sight dealing with the aftermath.
Many aircraft accidents are chalked up to "pilot error" when the pilot(s) were unable to overcome all the mistakes and oversights previously made by people sitting in comfortable chairs in comfortable offices and who are unlikely to even realize the role their actions or inactions may have played in the accident.
The design, terrain, high speed limit and inadequate law enforcement of traffic laws on I-25 Southbound north of Castle Rock is a recipe for disaster. The RV driver, if ticketed, is going to take a second hit from this event. Some safety experts say that there is no such thing as an accident. At the same time they subscribe to the theory of an "Accident Chain" where the actions or inactions of many people form links in a chain and if one link fails it can be the beginning of a catastrophic failure. I think this RVer may have been more of a resulting victim than a cause of this unfortunate chain of events.
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11-04-2018, 02:30 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FL420
I have driven up and down Monument Hill many times. Mostly in a car but several times in my Class A. The traffic is always heavy and fast. The speed limit is 75mph and most drivers are doing 5 to 15 mph faster. The 20%ers of the 80/20 Rule are tailgating and lane weaving. It is almost impossible to maintain a safe following distance even in a car. As soon as a car driven by a 20%er passes an RV driving in the right lane he will pass on the left and immediately cut into the right lane taking away the RVer's safe following distance.
At the bottom of the hill southbound traffic frequently comes to a complete stop due to busy freeway interchange traffic. Most drivers who are not looking far enough down the road are surprised and have to brake aggressively from 75+ mph to get stopped in time to avoid rear ending tail end Charlie. They usually make it on dry pavement but when it's wet, as in this case, all bets are off.
The damage to the coach appears to be very similar to the damage to my coach when I collided with a Ford Escape whose driver turned in front of me a month ago yesterday. I got it slowed down from an estimated 30mph to an estimated 10mph at the collision. I really feel sorry for the RVer as he now has to go through the hell I have been going through the last month with no end in sight dealing with the aftermath.
Many aircraft accidents are chalked up to "pilot error" when the pilot(s) were unable to overcome all the mistakes and oversights previously made by people sitting in comfortable chairs in comfortable offices and who are unlikely to even realize the role their actions or inactions may have played in the accident.
The design, terrain, high speed limit and inadequate law enforcement of traffic laws on I-25 Southbound north of Castle Rock is a recipe for disaster. The RV driver, if ticketed, is going to take a second hit from this event. Some safety experts say that there is no such thing as an accident. At the same time they subscribe to the theory of an "Accident Chain" where the actions or inactions of many people form links in a chain and if one link fails it can be the beginning of a catastrophic failure. I think this RVer may have been more of a resulting victim than a cause of this unfortunate chain of events.
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