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Old 10-26-2020, 10:17 AM   #1
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Safe-T-Plus

I have a 2016 Thor Tuscany on a Freightliner chassis. Has anyone have experience with adding on a Safe-T-Plus system on their rig. Did it improve your ride, steering having a front tire blow out. Would you recommend putting one on.
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Most gas rigs seem to benefit with adding one...less so for DPs so I would not buy one for a DP. It's been around for a long time...before power steering so the blowout help is not as much with power steering.

My "new" rig below had one installed by original owner which I disconnected after 4K miles as it made driving the rig noticeable tiring compared to 88K miles on the same chassis. Decided to make it adjustable on the fly to correct for changing conditions, mainly strong crosswinds.
Here is my DIY adjustable mount: https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/mak...le-451209.html
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I added a Safe-T-Plus to my 2015 Thor 27K, Ford F53 and V10.

I had to make several adjustments after installation (expected) to get neutral steering.

Made no difference in ride (would not expect it to).

It did help with straight line tracking and I felt more stable in cross winds and while passing trucks. Not night-and-day, but better.

I did move both front and rear stabilizer bars to the inner holes (CHF for the F53 chassis).

The Safe-T-Plus was an easy install - did it on the driveway next to my house.

Next I plan on adding a rear track bar to further improve resistance to cross winds and passing trucks.

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Old 10-26-2020, 03:10 PM   #4
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I installed the Safe T Plus to help in front tire blow outs, hope I never need it.
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I just installed a Roadmaster Reflex (which seems more or less to be the same thing) on my gas Workhorse W-22. After adding trac bars, Sumo Springs and a rear anti-sway bar I had not much of a problem with passing trucks, but the steering still required a lot of correction in crosswinds and on narrow two-lanes. The Reflex stabilizer helped this greatly. I was a bit skeptical that it would, which is why I tried everything else first, but eventually the positive reviews I read convinced me to try it. It makes my rig a lot more relaxing to drive.
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I have one on my Freightliner diesel puller. It is peace of mind. Anyone with an I beam suspension should have one. If a steer tire blows on a diesel or gas class A you are going to suddenly veer either left into incoming traffic or right into the ditch. The Safe T Plus will make the veer not so sudden so you can maintain control.
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I had front and rear Hellwig anti-sway bars plus a Roadmaster steering stabilizer install last year. Over all it was day and night difference with passing traffic. But I still had unwanted impact from strong cross winds. I took the rig to a heavy truck specialist and they made a very small correction in the steering stabilizer and that fixed the cross wind problem.
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I see little reason to add something like the Safe-T-Plus to a Freightliner diesel chassis. It does nothing for ride on any chassis, and in my opinion has little benefit on steering, flat tire or not. At best it may stiffen the steering a bit, but that's rarely desirable on even the most basic Freightliner front end.



However, if you are afraid of having a front tire blow out, it may be worthwhile simply for your peace-of-mind. Do you have a similar device on your cars?
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I see little reason to add something like the Safe-T-Plus to a Freightliner diesel chassis. It does nothing for ride on any chassis, and in my opinion has little benefit on steering, flat tire or not. At best it may stiffen the steering a bit, but that's rarely desirable on even the most basic Freightliner front end.



However, if you are afraid of having a front tire blow out, it may be worthwhile simply for your peace-of-mind. Do you have a similar device on your cars?
Gary I installed a Blue Ox equivalent to a Safety Steer on my Dp and it made a tremendous improvement in steering. No more sawing the wheel back and forth for hrs on end. It reduced driving fatigue greatly.
Unit had about 20,000 mi on it when installed and now has 55,000.
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Gary I installed a Blue Ox equivalent to a Safety Steer on my Dp and it made a tremendous improvement in steering. No more sawing the wheel back and forth for hrs on end. It reduced driving fatigue greatly.
Ditto on my gasser.
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CamJam, that's JUST what I was hoping for on mine, but It didn't help my 43dft pusher at all...

but, it WAS installed by camping world and they did crack my windshield during the install, so who knows if it was installed correctly...

In safe-t-plus's defense though, they did reach out to me to send pics in of the install... but you know how hard it is for a short fat OLD man to crawl under a coach?
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Gary I installed a Blue Ox equivalent to a Safety Steer on my Dp and it made a tremendous improvement in steering. No more sawing the wheel back and forth for hrs on end. It reduced driving fatigue greatly.
Unit had about 20,000 mi on it when installed and now has 55,000.
Exactly. It also helps in a cross wind or when an 18 wheeler blows past. Not to mention the aid if front tire blowout.
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If you have the XCR Chassis with IFS front suspension, there is no Safety-Steer unit made for it.
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I only drove couple hundred miles before I installed Safe-T-Plus on my 2004 HR so I don't really know how much it may have improved the steering. I installed it for peace of mind in case of a blowout. Now 2000 miles later, I can say that I don't really notice semis passing by other than minor buffet. When maneuvering at low speeds, I can just let go off the steering wheel and it self centers.
Some advice on the installation that you won't find in the instructions or utube videos. For example, Safe-T-Plus video shows the installation well but the centering is done backwards. To me this is like cutting a piece of wood and then measuring if you got it the right length.
1. First find a straight level road (crown/center lane) and mark the steering wheel position with tape and same location on the dash as a reference point.
2. Prop the front axle up (I used a 12 ton bottle jack and 6x6x2' blocks). I had to push with my foot on a pipe wrench at the same time with my 20V Max impact wrench to break the mounting bolts loose as the 20V Max alone did not have enough torque.
3. Before installing the tie-rod end, have a helper hold the steering wheel on the center location done on step #1.

When I did the installation in this order, it was centered the first time and no adjustments were needed.
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