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Old 03-18-2018, 12:47 PM   #15
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Thanks, everyone.

I go on RV trader or wherever, punch in my specs and price, and I get a thousand Thor’s, FRs and then handfuls of several other brands. Just helpful to know that a 5 year old Brand X that’s in my budget is worth a closer look.
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When looking at used quality coaches you can get some amazing coaches in the same price range as a new gas Winnebago. Look at this
2003 American Eagle EE 42' 2003 American Eagle EE 42' Priced at $ 94500
This one is a steal but I don't like the white interior. Replacement on that Newell would be over 1.5 Million. Yes you can build a better quality coach for that kind of money.
1999 Newell Coach Newell 45' Priced at $ 129500
Look over the web site and ppl.com and Texas RV Dealer, Used RVs for sale, motorhome sales, new RVs
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:51 PM   #17
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I'm new to the RV world and have been doing extensive research online here. My budget was lower than yours ($60K). We have a rig that we're hoping is the one being inspected on Thursday.

Some great advice given to me by the many knowledgeable members on here:
First, decide whether you want gas or diesel.
Second, find floor plans and features that you have to have, want, would be nice to have, and that you don't care about.
Third, just my personal recommendations from 3/4 and one ton pickups, if you're going diesel and you find one meticulously taken care of, go pre-2007. Those models don't have all of the EPA restrictions (DPF, DEF, EGR, etc.) that anything mid-2007 and on have.

Some of the DPs we were looking at that are known for making high quality coaches and had floor plans we liked were:
-American (we were looking at Eagle and Tradition)
-Country Coach (we were looking at Intrigue and Allure)
-Western RV Alpine Coach (we were looking at the 38' and 40' models)

You will find more great advice here than I could ever give, but we have learned a ton in just the couple of months that we have been reading (and just recently joining and posting). If you aren't familiar with what to look for, pay the good money for an inspection. These are complicated machines with a ton of different systems. Happy hunting!
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:24 AM   #18
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I guess that what I'm finding out is that any 10-15 year old diesel pusher, between $40,000 and $60,000, that fits our preferred floorplan, and checks out well, should be fine. We might be happier with a Newmar or Tiffin, but since it is our 1st, we wouldn't know the difference.


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Old 03-19-2018, 07:37 AM   #19
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Buy quality. Buy used.

Set a budget - go back in years till budget and RV values align.

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^^^^This^^^^
Love our 2005 Winnie Aspect, 90,000 miles with virtually no major problems. Yes, it's a gasser Class C, but aside from the bulletproof V10 drivetrain, the house portion was incredibly well built. Looking at the new motorhomes, I can't see a reason to buy new.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:49 AM   #20
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...Most RV manufacturers produce a range of models in both lesser and higher price tiers, with commensurate quality of components and design. Some of the basic construction methods and workmanship will be shared across models, but things like better grades of cabinetry, flooring, upholstery & furnishings will appear in the higher priced models...
Agree, RV manufacturers are just like car manufacturers.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:19 AM   #21
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Newmar and Tiffin are not top tier, more middle of road. Vista isn't within the Winnebago gas line either. Newmar and Tiffin make several models and the price rises accordingly. I agree with the pre-2009 comment. We have an 07 and the build quality and amenities are high, especially for the Winnebago line. If you can find a coach built on a 2006 chassis you will get one pre DEF and pre DPF. My understanding is that the early DPF versions, 08 or so, had issues with reliability.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:42 AM   #22
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I would put Newmar and Entegra in the top (affordable) tier . Tiffin in the second.
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Once again, I’m new to this. But I did think of one more thing that’s important to me. If you’re mechanically handy and plan to do any of your own maintenance (oil changes and such), look for a model with a side mounted radiator. Rear mounted radiators perform fine, but are difficult to get at the engine.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:46 AM   #24
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I would put Newmar and Entegra in the top (affordable) tier . Tiffin in the second.
A lot depends on what someone is looking for. Tiffin is the master at using all the available interior space for storage and their floor plans are popular. Newmar has a better insulated coach which makes it easier to heat and cool plus its quieter. I'm not familiar with Entegra so do not know their advantage, but Im sure they have one. They did not have a floor plan we liked when we were looking, but see they have copied one of Tiffins now. So what defines quality. Some companies provide superior customer support after the sale. Is that part of the overall advantage or quality of a brand?? Everyone has a different idea of what good quality is.

Of course, after you own it, the quality goes up.
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I guess that what I'm finding out is that any 10-15 year old diesel pusher, between $40,000 and $60,000, that fits our preferred floorplan, and checks out well, should be fine. We might be happier with a Newmar or Tiffin, but since it is our 1st, we wouldn't know the difference.


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Since I'm partial to older American Coaches, may I suggest offering $60K for every one of these, that you can find and with the contingency of an inspection of course.... 2005 Revolution LE Series M-40E (400hp) Prices and Used Values | NADAguides
Sooner or later, you'll get one. Just make sure it's the LE. This 40E is the popular 1 1/2 bath model, but there are other floor plans, as well.
You'll be lucky to find one perfect, but then everything isn't a deal breaker and you can take care of minor things, as you go along.
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:26 AM   #26
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I'm beginning to think that IF I can find a floorplan that we like, (and not really sure about what we like right now), feel good about an inspection, and hopefully maintainance records, That most any brand would work for us.
We are thinking for getting something to explore the country for 2-3 years and then probably sell.
We've been liveaboard boaters for the past 12 years and looking forward to land cruising.
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I’m going to go more with Hanboes advise, 1st how big of a coach do you want? 36’ 45’, do you plan on towing? Car ,trailer? Look at towing capacities, gross combined weight
Freightliner , Spartan ,roadmaster, but the R4R chassis is known for bad trailering arms
Dual pane windows? Or just tint?
How much Hp?
Do you plan on boondocking? No hookups, if not you can be looking for residential fridge models
I would search the forum with key words like recalls, help, Fire, trouble
There lots of Rv manufactures , but only a few frame builders and appliances
Good luck with your search, I gotta love the Rv show that shows people only look at 3 rv’s then buy one!
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