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Old 05-21-2022, 07:57 AM   #1
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Shopping for used class A

Morning all Iím a previous 5th wheel owner 88 jayco Jcrane 34í and the last one a bighorn 34í anyway wife and I want to get a class A but we canít afford what we want new ,so looking at an older DP Cummins or cat side radiator , tag looking at Monaco beaver Newmar ,tiffin Iíve been reading a lot in irv2 and it is a wealth of valuable info are there any dealers around that cater to folks like us and have these in stock to go and look at Iím in CA, and will sell our rental income property if I need to to get what we want I have a class B with hazmat,tank, air brake endorsement (is this enough for class A operation?) thank you all for all this great info
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:29 AM   #2
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When we were shopping for our used DP we had to cast a wide net, nationwide search. We were living in California at the time but wound up buying a rig in Florida. Tiffins (and I imagine Newmars) didn't stay on the market long, you had to act quick to get your hands on one. Weren't easy to find at a good price, in good condition, with the exact layout we wanted. Maybe fuel prices have cooled things down a little. In any event, you might want to include private sellers in your search.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:59 AM   #3
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My advice for you is to take a long time to fully research the market and go see several different makes and models so you can get a clear idea of what layout works for you, the build quality of the inside and out, test drive to see what chassis and engine feels right for you. We had a 36' gas class A for many years and it was our entry into the class a lifestyle. We loved it and eventually I wanted to upgrade to a newer but used class a DP and began a search. I "thought" I had conducted adequate research into what we wanted and jumped at a private sale in AZ on a '05 41' Gulfstream w/400. I think I was a little excited, also tired the day I flew out to AZ to look at it in 107 degree temps, and bought it. We used it and it was very nice, great layout, and no serious problems (mostly cosmetic) but I only had it for 3 months before I was looking again as I had determined all of the things that I liked and disliked about it and it began to drive me nuts....I'm a little OCD and over analyze everything. So I did more research and a lot of looking and in March of this year, my wife and I found a '07 Monaco/Holiday Rambler Navigator 45' w/525 Cummins, tag and pretty much loaded with upgrades and excellent quality and condition. The difference between this and the Gulf Stream is amazing. I love driving the Navigator as it is extremely comfortable, smooth, quiet, and with more power. The upgrades and quality inside and out are awesome. We are excited to take it out for it's maiden voyage next weekend. I traded in the old DP that we owned for about 8-9 months and did lose about $10K in the deal which included the taxes, some maintenance, etc. A rather expensive mistake. The only step up down the road might be a Newell coach but we'll see, so far I am very pleased with this coach. Take your time to research and look and buy what you want, especially the quality....you'll never regret it. Good luck!
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At least in California, I don't think you'll find what you're looking for at an RV dealer. Any dealer who sells quality used RV's typically won't stock anything older than a 2013 model, as they can't get financing on coaches that are ten years old. You may find some lots that do, but those may be full of junky coaches.

You really need to identify your budget so people can give you a better idea. Once we know your budget, we can tell you what years are available with a side radiator. When it comes to side radiator coaches, most will have the Cummins ISL or Cat C-9 (400) at a minimum.
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Old 05-22-2022, 07:33 AM   #6
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Thanks for all the replies great info our budget is around 150 because thatís what I think Iíll have to spend at a minimum to get us an exceptable rig kinda looking at pre def but not older than 2007 not sure if the def is a deal breaker or not Iím looking for others opinions on all these things
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Thanks for all the replies great info our budget is around 150 because that’s what I think I’ll have to spend at a minimum to get us an exceptable rig kinda looking at pre def but not older than 2007 not sure if the def is a deal breaker or not I’m looking for others opinions on all these things
Yeah that's what we did. Tiffin Bus has what you're looking for.

Engines are luck of the draw, get that checked thoroughly regardless of miles. I like having a pre def engine, just make sure you get a good one.

The rig still looks good, we haven't been refused due to age yet. We have been replacing a bunch of things that died of old age. Air bags, inverter, AC units, various plumbing fixtures, water pump and controller. Aquahot and HWH jacks have been kind of an ongoing saga although the former has been well behaved lately. Shocks need replacement. It'll be a labor of love but based on your shopping list you're gonna be rolling in a very fine rig for not much money up front.

Don't take the coach inspection too seriously, just cuz something is working when you pull out of the lot doesn't mean it'll be working when you turn the corner. The dealer can't warranty systems on a rig that old but may be willing to service or upgrade systems for cheap (fridge? Inverter? Microwave? AC?) OTOH take the engine and chassis inspection very seriously.

I'd keep something in reserve. If your budget is $150k I'd be shopping below 140 for a rig with a good engine or below 90 for one with a questionable engine

We wound up having to drop a reman engine into ours, fortunately we had an honest dealer who was upfront with us and priced the thing accordingly (central Florida RV) -- everyone came out ahead except for the po who doesn't know how to run a diesel properly. The rig was otherwise in such beautiful condition an unscrupulous dealer could have had his way with us. Watch out for that
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