Shouldn't there be a special place?

[Concord]

A special place in (you-know-where)... For motorhome designers who put carpet in bathrooms!

Maybe sentence them to an eternity pulling out staples around toilets.

What crimes and punishments can YOU think of for these types of decision makers?

[Alpine36]

Im not sure about punishment, but I'd sure like to be the staple salesman to rv builders.
He probably lives in a mansion.

[twojayhawks]

I don't think carpet belongs in a RV in any room.

[rodekyll]

I pulled enough weight in stapes from my floor to install a second generator up front and still had less weight on the axle.

They had three stapler guys, each with a different size gun and three 5-gallon bucket of assorted staples. These guys are given 10 days per chassis and strict instructions to not return with any in their buckets. My top 10 list of additional stapling rules are:

10) 3x staples under slides and anywhere else inaccessible once the coach is assembled over the floor.

9) Wherever one guy pops one in, the other two MUST outdo the first with goofy attack angles, sizes, and amounts. Think fire hydrant and dogs.

8) Every 4th staple must be driven directly into the floor without impinging on any carpeting material. These staples MUST protrude from the subfloor just enough to rip $5/ft vinyl plank flooring WITHOUT being visible to a microscope or yielding to extraction tools.

7) Creativity in placement is encouraged. Extra points for inaccessibility. Lose points for predictability.

6) At least one slide motor wire MUST be pierced by no less than three staples, no more than two of the same size.

5) Whenever possible, use the longest, most extraction-resistant staples.

4) Whenever possible, staple directly into subfloor, add a layer of staples for the carpet pad, and a third layer for the carpet itself. Leave them just bumpy enough to make your slide roller surface look like a golf ball.

3) If the subfloor cannot be lifted 20' with an electromagnet on a crane, more staples are required.

2) The more inaccessible/invisible a location, the more need to place staples of random sizes in random orientations.

1) Soaking staples in urine for a week prior to installation makes them more brittle and prone to breaking on extraction. The value of this preparation step must not be underestimated.


Feel free to add your own . . . it feels GREAT to vent!

[Alpine36]

Originally Posted by rodekyll

I pulled enough weight in stapes from my floor to install a second generator up front and still had less weight on the axle.

They had three stapler guys, each with a different size gun and three 5-gallon bucket of assorted staples. These guys are given 10 days per chassis and strict instructions to not return with any in their buckets. My top 10 list of additional stapling rules are:

10) 3x staples under slides and anywhere else inaccessible once the coach is assembled over the floor.

9) Wherever one guy pops one in, the other two MUST outdo the first with goofy attack angles, sizes, and amounts. Think fire hydrant and dogs.

8) Every 4th staple must be driven directly into the floor without impinging on any carpeting material. These staples MUST protrude from the subfloor just enough to rip $5/ft vinyl plank flooring WITHOUT being visible to a microscope or yielding to extraction tools.

7) Creativity in placement is encouraged. Extra points for inaccessibility. Lose points for predictability.

6) At least one slide motor wire MUST be pierced by no less than three staples, no more than two of the same size.

5) Whenever possible, use the longest, most extraction-resistant staples.

4) Whenever possible, staple directly into subfloor, add a layer of staples for the carpet pad, and a third layer for the carpet itself. Leave them just bumpy enough to make your slide roller surface look like a golf ball.

3) If the subfloor cannot be lifted 20' with an electromagnet on a crane, more staples are required.

2) The more inaccessible/invisible a location, the more need to place staples of random sizes in random orientations.

1) Soaking staples in urine for a week prior to installation makes them more brittle and prone to breaking on extraction. The value of this preparation step must not be underestimated.


Feel free to add your own . . . it feels GREAT to vent!

I nominate this as post of the year!
Methinks you just about covered it all.....

[Ray,IN]

My thinking is, NO engineer should be able to do any design work unless they have worked at least one year repairing what they were schooled to design.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Concord

A special place in (you-know-where)... For motorhome designers who put carpet in bathrooms!

Maybe sentence them to an eternity pulling out staples around toilets.

What crimes and punishments can YOU think of for these types of decision makers?Attachment 269087

And the person that bought the coach should be right next to the designer for making the designers decision a profitable one. If the people didn't buy the manufacturer would change the design.

[aeblank]

As an engineer, I assure you it's not that simple. My college roommate said "Engineering is nothing but a series of compromises". I'm 18+ years (man, I guess I'm getting old) into it and it's never been more true.

[FL420]

Originally Posted by aeblank

As an engineer, I assure you it's not that simple. My college roommate said "Engineering is nothing but a series of compromises". I'm 18+ years (man, I guess I'm getting old) into it and it's never been more true.

And once the engineers come up with the optimal design the Marketing Department folks convince the decision makers to go in an entirely different direction because the optimal design doesn't have enough bling.

[aeblank]

Originally Posted by FL420

And once the engineers come up with the optimal design the Marketing Department folks convince the decision makers to go in an entirely different direction because the optimal design doesn't have enough bling.

Or costs too much.

[winniman]

Must be the same guy who decided putting it all around, and in the stairwell at the entrance. My entrance has vinyl flooring at the entrance, but some Einstein decided both sides of the stairwell would be more functional with carpet. At least no one is peeing on it there, but hard to keep clean if its muddy out. I haven't tried to remove the carpet, so I cant comment on the staple guy, but he must be a close relative of the guy at the lumber yard who staples the tarps on loads of lumber. He has to make sure there is at least two or three staples in the end of every board.