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03-12-2014, 05:00 AM
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wait till it blows and you see what it does to fiberglass and aluminum not going on my mh
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03-12-2014, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pops2
if you get a flat you got a flat if you have duallys youcan sometimes limp it in for repairs. think what your options are.
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Flats happen on front tires also.
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03-12-2014, 08:04 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Virginia
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I wonder if the blowout will go with a lot more force. I have a friend who just had his inside dual blow and he had 3K in fiberglass work to repair the damage.
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03-12-2014, 08:48 AM
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Senior Member
Carolina Campers
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Winston Salem, NC
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Originally Posted by 94-Newmar
The trucking companies are now making a trend AWAY from the Super singles and going back to duals. Why? 1) The singles have a much larger single treaded footprint, almost like looking at a drag racing tire, thus more prone to hydroplaning on wet roads and floating on top of snow and mud thus loss of traction and control. Duals are narrower and are less likely to hydroplane and will dig into snow/mud. OTR drivers claim the number of accidents and mishaps from hydroplaning on wet roads have gone up substantially. 2) Drivers complain about the inability to limp a truck to have a flat repaired on the drives. Drivers complain about the sudden loss of control with a blowout at highway speeds. With duals, and one being flat, you can most likely get to a tire center rather than waiting for hours on a mobile service. You can't do this with super singles. OTR Drivers absolutely hate them. 3) The fuel mileage increases seem to be around .3 to .5 on average. If you drove 200,000+ miles a year I can see that as being a benefit to factor into your return on investment (ROI). Interestingly enough those independent drivers whom are paying their own fuel have mostly chosen not to convert to super singles. The general consensus is that the pro's do not outweight the con's.
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I see that you are a real expert..... If they are trending AWAY from the super singles, I guess it is just all those that don't understand all these points that are making the Super singles so popular.... And it must be all those ill informed truckers that have driven up sales so dramatically, with future projections that are far surpassing the current trends... I guess time will tell...
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03-12-2014, 01:13 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Warner Robins, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich and Cork
Flats happen on front tires also.
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If you have a flat on a front tire and you have dually's you can always move one of the dually's to the front and still limp in.
Jon
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03-12-2014, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Virginia
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It is easier to just carry one spare for any position.
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03-12-2014, 01:35 PM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John S.
It is easier to just carry one spare for any position.
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This is my thought.
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03-12-2014, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,450
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If you are a trucker, legal payload weight is profit. If your tare weight is less (by using super single tires) then you can earn more. If rolling resistance is less with super singles, you can save considerable fuel even with a fraction of one mpg. Team operated semis can run a quarter of a million miles a year. In some applications, super singles would be a wise choice. In a past life I was a trucker. Now I do not earn money with payload and I operate a small number of miles a year. For now I will keep my antique duals.
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03-12-2014, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve N Sal
I like the thought of still having a tire if one of the duals blow.
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The Spacecraft 5ver (actually a semi) toy hauler across from me at the campground has two axles with super singles. Rig is so big he upgraded from a small Freightliner to a bigger one just to haul it. He keeps a Mini and two bikes in the garage.
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03-13-2014, 01:56 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampDaven
Somebody, please do this upgrade and report to us all. When we have a few hundred of them on RVs, we will be better educated, yes?
If they are on my next rig when I buy it, I will have it. I will let the virtue of patience rule, not speculation.
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I volonteer you
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03-13-2014, 06:23 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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I think the super singles are based on lots of miles to get your return in investment. The way the factories like to cut every corner using the lowest bids for every item in most of these coaches I don't see it happing.
I do like the idea but with the small amount of miles most coaches get put on them I don't see the benifits.
Russell
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03-13-2014, 07:00 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Bamber Lake
Posts: 500
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Well just FYI I did see a tour bus with single jumbo tires (4) on the back in Fla this year, been wondering when somebody was going to do that, but the 100,000 coment kind of makes it no sence for an RV.
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03-13-2014, 07:30 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fulltime, USA
Posts: 16,706
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stink
I volonteer you 
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Please send the check! Sorry, but I just put 6 new michellins on the rear of mine.
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03-13-2014, 08:08 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Emerald Coast
Posts: 1,759
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They look so cool, though.
They also had a 10k weight limit early on, so axle limits can be a concern for single rear axle MH's.
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