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10-24-2021, 10:48 PM
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You NEED a METER/ TEST LIGHT OR BUZZER TESTER to trace the power/ power loss? (EDIT) Glad to see you got it fixed.
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10-25-2021, 06:04 AM
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Glad you fixed it. The "arcing" of the batteries somehow took out a lot of fuses. Thank goodness for them but as you have found there are a lot of fuse holders on the coach.
I will send you a ton of schematics later. My 08 is close enough that they will help.
You did great chasing all the problems.
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10-25-2021, 07:50 AM
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I have the complete wiring diagram book for my Camelot, but nowhere did it show the fuses that were blown.
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10-25-2021, 07:51 AM
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Starter Won't Engage
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Originally Posted by THenne1713
You NEED a METER/ TEST LIGHT OR BUZZER TESTER to trace the power/ power loss? (EDIT) Glad to see you got it fixed.
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I used a test meter extensively and while it helped a lot, it ultimately did not find the problem.
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10-25-2021, 07:54 AM
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Starter Won't Engage
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Originally Posted by Skip426
Well that's a little good news .
Is the shift pad now lit up ?
Are you testing fuses with a volt meter or a 12 volt test light ?
Looks good is not always good , the fuses have to be tested ?
Cummins , uses 4 or 5 fuses ( usually inline holders ) to supply battery power to the ECM . You may still have a blown fuse somewhere .
Question , have you been testing fuses in both the battery compartment and the front power distribution panel ?
Does your battery bay look like this picture ?
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My battery bay is significantly different than your picture. It only has batteries and the battery combiner. I tested all fuses with a continuity tester.
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10-25-2021, 07:56 AM
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Starter Won't Engage
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Originally Posted by Skip426
Are you jumping the connection on the starter with the ignition key in the " ON " position ?
If the engine cranks ; while jumping the starter ; with the key on , and it won't start , then you have perhaps two problems .
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As it turned out I did have 2 problems. I believe the 2 - 30 amp fuses that were blown powered the Cummins ECU and the blown 10 amp fuse was protecting the Allison ECU.
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10-25-2021, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bandmmorris
As it turned out I did have 2 problems. I believe the 2 - 30 amp fuses that were blown powered the Cummins ECU and the blown 10 amp fuse was protecting the Allison ECU.
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Every schematic , I have shows the Cummins ECU fuses as , 10 or 7.5 amp ( 2X 10 and 3x 7.5 is the most common set up ) so the 2x 30 amp , could be for another circuit related to the ignition .
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10-25-2021, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
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I have the complete wiring diagram book for my Camelot, but nowhere did it show the fuses that were blown.
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Any chance I could get a copy of those drawings? I have a huge amount on various units but getting some that are specific to your unit would be great to add to my archives.
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10-26-2021, 04:43 AM
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I would be glad to send you the wiring diagrams, but the pages in the wiring diagram book I have are too large for me to scan or copy. They are much larger than legal size paper.
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10-26-2021, 05:58 PM
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Photos might suffice. It's good they are large enough to read.
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10-28-2021, 04:01 PM
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If you have BLACK-WHITE CABLES, VERY possible you have reversed polarity? With BW (vs RB), Black =POS+ (??????????) If no luck, check battery polarity, and follow what you think is NEG to the chassis ground bolt to verify?
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10-28-2021, 04:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bandmmorris
I have checked the wiring multiple times and believe it to be correct. There are 3 wires on the chassis batteries, 1 large red cable to positive terminal, 1 large black cable to negative terminal and smaller red wire to positive terminal with inline fuse that goes to the battery combiner. Would appreciate if anyone with a Monaco Camelot around 2007 vintage check and let me know if theirs is wired the same. The battery area is the only place I worked in.
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I am sending you 5 pics of my 2005 Camelot 40 PDQ battery set up for your review. Hope this helps.
Dave
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10-28-2021, 04:12 PM
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Battery Wireing
2005 Monaco Camelot 40 PDQ Battery wiring pics. I uploaded 5 pics. Don't know where they went though :(
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10-28-2021, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dws520
2005 Monaco Camelot 40 PDQ Battery wiring pics. I uploaded 5 pics. Don't know where they went though :(
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Wow, are you in a drought zone ?
If not,, hose them batteries down. Damp dirt conducts electricity.
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