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11-24-2020, 06:13 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Steering
I know this has been discussed many times over. All have said that tail wag can be significantly improved with a rear trac bar. Ultra offers the rear trac bar for our Newmar 36’ Mountain Aire at a reduced price. My question is do we need the front rod, too? It is also at a reduced price.
As always your words of wisdom are very important to me.
Thank you.
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11-24-2020, 06:18 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I added a rear track bar from Blue Ox. Took out 99% of the tail wag. So much better now.
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11-24-2020, 08:57 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Oklahoma
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Thank you for your reply. Do plan to add a front trac rod in the future or are you satisfied with the addition of the rear only?
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11-24-2020, 09:03 PM
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Florida Cooters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner RV Trip Wizard
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I installed the UltraRV rear trac bar. It made a 100% improvement in tail wag. Semis now passing aren’t near as noticeable as well as cross wind. At this point I am satisfied and have no need to spend another ~$450 for a front bar.
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2009 CT Coachworks Siena 35V / W22 8.1L / Ford Flex / Blue Ox Avail / TST 507 / Scan Gauge II / Even Brake / Onan 7k / F&R Sway bars / Steering Stabilizer / F&R Trac Bar / SumoSpring / Bilstein shocks / Members: FMCA, WCMC, Good Sams, RV Life
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11-24-2020, 09:13 PM
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I installed just the front trac bar at first and it seemed to help the "wag" quite a bit. I installed the rear bar not long after that and that made it incrementally better.
The Roadmaster Reflex steering stabilizer was one of the best improvements I made. I'd put that near the top of my list if I were to do it again.
I also installed a Hellwig rear anti-sway bar, but since they're pretty expensive I'd leave that for last.
With all of those improvements, plus Sumo Springs, my Workhorse W-22 is now a pleasure to drive.
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11-24-2020, 09:25 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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OP, what year is your coach? Ford put a front trac bar on the F 53 chassis starting around 2009 if I am not too wrong on the year. You also need to visually check your rear SWAY BAR mounts and bushings for their condition as they are prone to fall apart or off when the bolts back out. See the sticky at the top of the Ford chassis forum for more info.
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11-24-2020, 10:21 PM
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Damon Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SimRacer
OP, what year is your coach? Ford put a front trac bar on the F 53 chassis starting around 2009 if I am not too wrong on the year. You also need to visually check your rear SWAY BAR mounts and bushings for their condition as they are prone to fall apart or off when the bolts back out. See the sticky at the top of the Ford chassis forum for more info.
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Actually, they started in 2006.
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11-25-2020, 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryStone
Actually, they started in 2006.
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Actually 2004.
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11-25-2020, 06:16 AM
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Actually...our “girl” is a 2002. Thank you all! I now have my marching orders. Visually inspect bushings and sway bar mounts. Purchase and have installed the rear trac bar. Hold off on the front trac mount.
You never let me down. BTW...HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
Closing this thread now.
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11-25-2020, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tderonne
Actually 2004.
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Err. I was going by someone elses info. You are correct. thanks.
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11-25-2020, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdventureVet
Actually...our “girl” is a 2002. Thank you all! I now have my marching orders. Visually inspect bushings and sway bar mounts. Purchase and have installed the rear trac bar. Hold off on the front trac mount.
You never let me down. BTW...HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
Closing this thread now.
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As you can see, you are getting answers for BOTH Workhorse and Ford chassis.
You need to tell us what chassis you have if you want advice relevant to YOUR coach.
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11-25-2020, 12:19 PM
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Simply no such thing as track bar for the front of a Workhorse due to a radically different suspension design.
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11-25-2020, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsyR
Simply no such thing as track bar for the front of a Workhorse due to a radically different suspension design.
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Yup, even here (Workhorse) there are two completely different front suspensions. P chassis have IFS. W have solid front axle.
Again, a real guessing game if we don't know what you have.
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11-25-2020, 01:36 PM
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Ok then. We have a 2002 gas Newmar Mountain Aire 3560. It is a 8.1 V8 Chevy. Not a Ford. Workhorse chassis. W22. I am the wife...cut me a little slack please. 😉. Anything else needed for clarity? I will help if I can. Thank you guys.
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