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03-29-2017, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Alberta
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I installed one on my 40' DP. Gives me some piece of mind as far as blow outs go. Sure you can drive holding the wheel tight when driving, in case something happens but do you want to? Safe-T-Plus dampens the initial pull on the steering wheel when a blowout occurs. Wouldn't be without it. It tracks better down the highway as well.
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03-29-2017, 10:01 PM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 304
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Thanks everyone for the input. I think I'm going to add one just to ease her mind... happy wife...
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Jerry & Diane Kovar
2006 HR Navigator 43pbq
2015 Jeep Wrangler/Blue Ox Avanta
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03-30-2017, 09:02 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,768
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Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer
...I guess I'm odd man out, cause I doubt whether an STP will have any noticeable effect on a big DP that already has an excellent steering system. I had one on a previous gas chassis rig with leaf spring suspension, but never even considered adding it to our DP...
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I agree with Gary. These big rigs have excellent heavy duty steering systems. I have had a RF blow out...tapped off the cruise and coasted to the side of the road. Other than some steering wheel vibration there were no control problems at all.
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2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 13, 500 HP
Pulling a Honda CRV
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03-30-2017, 10:41 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 73
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I installed one on my Winnie Forza 34T, and it certainly helps with the tail wagging the dog effect when passed by 16-wheelers.
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03-31-2017, 05:41 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,820
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If you don't think you need one, watch this:
This made me seriously look at installing one on mine. It may not have prevented this from happening, but then again it may have.
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Vera & Ken
1998 Holiday Rambler Imperial, RR8S Chassis
Cummins 6C8.3 mechanical engine, 325HP, 3060 Allison
Towing 2014 Ford Explorer
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04-01-2017, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,768
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Quote:
Originally Posted by veraken
If you don't think you need one, watch this:
This made me seriously look at installing one on mine. It may not have prevented this from happening, but then again it may have.
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That video proves nothing. It "says" the accident was caused by a blowout. It could have been any number of things...ran over something in the road, ran off the road, had a heart attack, rim failure, some type steering failure, excessive speed, etc.
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2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 13, 500 HP
Pulling a Honda CRV
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04-01-2017, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
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The video shows the effect of an abrupt wheel pull, to the left in this case. The wheel pull was not stopped quickly enough and in the soft ground the rig just dug in and beyond the ability to stay upright. Even if the rig had stayed on pavement sudden hard braking would have done exactly what happened. Good steering stabilizers exert enough resistance to mitigate the abruptness seen here and give the driver a chance if they don't panic. Panic ends things very quickly.
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04-02-2017, 07:41 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Agree about the hard abrupt pull to the left. However, with the steering systems on these big rigs, the driver should have been able to maintain control...it appears he was slow to react, thus off the road.
All MH drivers should be aware of not using the brakes in a situation like this.
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2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 13, 500 HP
Pulling a Honda CRV
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04-02-2017, 08:19 AM
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American Coach Owners Club
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Location: North Florida
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Did anyone besides me notice the brake lights did NOT come on in the video? The tire seems to blow just as driver signal to lane change, you'll see the right turn indicator block once... It doesn't appear that the driver even slowed down.
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1999 American Eagle
ASE med/heavy certified technician
ASE advanced diesel certified
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04-03-2017, 05:30 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Lexington, SC
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I know it's counter intuitive, but per the following, the last thing you want to do is apply the brakes.
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1998 Holiday Rambler Imperial, RR8S Chassis
Cummins 6C8.3 mechanical engine, 325HP, 3060 Allison
Towing 2014 Ford Explorer
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04-03-2017, 07:05 AM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tampa FL
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Yup on the brakes. My father was pulling a medium sized airstream with his E250 on the Interstate when the rear axle and wheel on the van decided to go a different direction. He couldn't stop from being pulled into the median but he rode the trailer brake controller all the way to a safe stop. The trooper said it was the first time he came across one that hadn't rolled. Trailer-OK. Dad-OK. Van-repaired. Dog-won't ride in van anymore.
IF YOU CANT reach the controller, steer and see out the window, MOVE the controller.
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2006 HR Scepter 42DSQ
Holiday FL
RVIA Certified RV Service Technician
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04-03-2017, 07:21 AM
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Senior Member
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: North Florida
Posts: 2,474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by veraken
I know it's counter intuitive, but per the following, the last thing you want to do is apply the brakes.
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I've seen that video, and the many debated threads and post on this fourm about it.
I was only was noting that he still went into median and rolled over despite not hitting brakes and it looks like he was still under power when it went into grass...
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1999 American Eagle
ASE med/heavy certified technician
ASE advanced diesel certified
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04-05-2017, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 770
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Just installed True Center on my 2009 Pace Arrow 38P and what a difference. My coach has always driven very good but now it is extremely good. And on top of that just put on 4 Koni shocks that are excellent too. Looking forward to this years long fall trip up to Maine.
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04-05-2017, 05:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat320
That video proves nothing. It "says" the accident was caused by a blowout. It could have been any number of things...ran over something in the road, ran off the road, had a heart attack, rim failure, some type steering failure, excessive speed, etc.
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How many people have you seen that cannot even handle a blowout on a light car, or just running off on the shoulder and over correcting? Happens everyday because many people lack skills to compensate.
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