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Old 09-08-2017, 01:11 PM   #1
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Tiffin vs. Fleetwood

I am aware that one is considered "higher" class and that I may try to compare apples and oranges...

However, I am in a situation where I got two offers for a used A motorhome, both models being diesel pushers:
1. 2005 Fleetwood Expedition 38N - with 30K mileage
2. 2007 Tiffin Allegro Bay 37QDB - with close to 100K mileage

The asking price is the same, $55K. Floor plan very similar.

This would be my very first MH, so I need the advice of old-timers
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:58 PM   #2
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It depends on floor plan and maintenance records and how well they were taken care of and in that order. The Tiffin is newer. Run a NADA Book on both and see what the value is also. Good luck.
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:05 PM   #3
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Pay close attention to fresh/black/gray tank sizes, also HP/Torque to weight ratios...js say'n
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:47 PM   #4
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Do you mean the Tiffin is an Allegro Bus? I believe the Allegro Bay only comes as a gasser or a front end diesel, not a diesel pusher. Fleetwood makes so many models that I am not sure where the Expedition falls in the hierarchy. The Allegro Bus is Tiffin's next to the top of the line coach. As DD788Snipe says, it depends on the condition and maintenance that has been done. It might help to have an inspection done before purchasing.
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:55 PM   #5
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My brother bought a Fleetwood diesel pusher approx. 2 years ago, had many problems, sold it and bought an Allegra Bus and is extremely pleased.
I would go with the Allegra, if it is a diesel and has been maintained 100K miles is no problem.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:26 PM   #6
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2007 Tiffin Allegro Bay 37QDB, I believe is a front end diesel

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Old 09-08-2017, 03:43 PM   #7
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Fleetwood hierarchy goes expedition then discovery I believe. If the allegro Bay is a front engine diesel (FRED) its a gas coach frame with a diesel engine right?
To me the Expedition "Real" Diesel and frame, air brakes etc would be the choice but your not me! condition is 90% of the question also.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:48 PM   #8
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I have a expedition 2005 38n it has been a great RV...
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My brother bought a Fleetwood diesel pusher approx. 2 years ago, had many problems, sold it and bought an Allegra Bus and is extremely pleased.
I would go with the Allegra, if it is a diesel and has been maintained 100K miles is no problem.
I think with any RV (or car, SUV, house etc) it's always a crapshoot on what we get. It can be trouble free or someone else's problems.

I had a Fleetwood gas RV, reliable once the new RV bugs were worked out
X in laws had a used Discovery, zero issues

I do agree 100k miles isn't a problem however it looks like the allegro is a FRED and not at same level as then expedition when comparing chassis, engine etc.

Personally I would get the expedition, I was extremely pleased with how Fleetwood treated me and that's one of the reasons my next coach will also be a Fleetwood. That is IF the expedition is well cared for. If it's been neglected, nomservice history etc I would look elsewhere.

Tiffin is also a great company
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If the Tiffin is in fact a front engine diesel (FRED), then it will have springs for suspension instead of the air ride of a diesel pusher
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I'd go Fleetwood because I'm West Coast.
Fleetwood has more service options.
Our friends have to take their Tiffin Phaton to Alabama for some warranty issues.
They live here in Los Angeles.
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I would suggest you test drive both units. The Tiffin if in fact is a FRED you will make up your mind quickly. Very noisey engine and a rougher ride.
The rear engine diesel pusher is far superior
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I think other posters are correct, the Allegro is a front engine diesel and it won't have air ride, I would go with the Fleetwood.
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Yeah, I think first I would research whether or not I wanted a FRED at all. Some people love em, some hate em. Spend some time searching FRED in's and out's and that will help make up your mind I'm sure. I'd be leaning on the fleetwood though... but I'd still want to know more about the other.
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