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Old 01-18-2025, 06:13 PM   #1
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Can not find Michelin tires anywhere in the us for my 2008 dutchstar. Michelin says they do not know when they will mfg them again. Size 305/70r/22.5 .

A shop has highly recommended Toyo and have that size in stock. Anyone have any experience with the Toyo tires on a class A motorhome.
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Old 01-18-2025, 06:33 PM   #2
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Yes, they work very well and are far, far cheaper.

I replaced my OEM Michelin XRV 235/80R22.5 tires date coded August 2018 with the Toyo M154's in 245/75R22.5 in June 2024. They had 19,950 miles on them. There are a LOT of motorhome owners who have made the Michelin -> Toyo switch and seem universally very happy. That was good enough for me.

I also had the inner rear valve stems replaced with Borg Dually Valves at the same time to eliminate the valve stem extension.

I also had Centramatic dynamic balancers installed because there's no easier or cheaper time than when the tires are already off. The factory tires had no weights on the front but weights on the rear and no balancing beads in either.

Centramatic balancers are large metal rings. One goes behind each front tire and the other goes between the two rear tires on a corner. Pull the tire, slide the balancer on, and reinstall the tire. That's it. They are reusable.

Even with the Borg Dually Valves and the Centramatic balancers it was cheaper than just putting Michelin tires back on.

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Here is an example of the price difference: https://motorhometires.com/shop/?pa_...ires=8&swoof=1

That company hires an installer local to you. They come to your location to replace the tires and install balancing beads so they are more expensive than a local shop.

But it does give you an idea of the price difference. The Toyos are 2/3rds of the price of the Michelins.

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Be darn certain to specify how old a tire you will accept. The Toyos are made in Japan so it can be difficult to get ones less than six months old. But you need to tell them your limit. When we had our tires replaced last summer I specified 6 months but privately I would accept 9 months.

The first set delivered were two years old. The tire shop rejected 18 tires before they got a set that was 11 months old so I took those.

When we bought our motorhome new the tires were already nine months old but had been pressurized for only five of the nine months, so I didn't care about the extra two months on the date code (9 versus 11) for the new tires. I know when the new tires were installed and first pressurized, which is more important to me than some manufacturing date.

Why is it such an issue getting "fresh" tires? Because the tire warranty starts when they are installed, not when they were made, so the warehouses have no incentive to send out the freshest tires or even matched tires nor will they look for them, usually.

But motorhomes, unlike commercial trucks, age the tires out before they wear them out so it's more of an issue for us, especially if we're contemplating selling the motorhome in four or five years.

Make sense?

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Old 01-18-2025, 07:51 PM   #5
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most is not all toyo commercal truck /rv tires are made in Georgia usa
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Old 01-18-2025, 10:03 PM   #6
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most is not all toyo commercal truck /rv tires are made in Georgia usa
Interesting. All 6 Toyos (295/80-22.5) on mine are made in Japan. Maybe a size thing?
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I went from Michelin's to Toyo's on my previous coach. Was very happy with the tires. No issue at all. Cost was far cheaper than the Michelins.

I will likely do the same on the current coach when tires are needed.
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Had Michelin replaced with Toyo tires. Problem with Michelin if you need a replacement, none available most of the time. However you can sell your old tires. I got $200 for each tire. They can use them on large trailers.
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Toyos are on my jeeps, pickups and MH. No problems since using them as replacement over the last 30 years.
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