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Old 08-03-2021, 03:06 PM   #1
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Toad (towed) in the Road

As a relative Newbie I’m still learning. But, I’ve had several run-ins with RVer’s parking their Toad in the Road making it impossible to get into my campsite. The first time the security guard escorted me to my site, then banged on the door waking the guy up to move his tow vehicle out of the driveway of my campsite.
This weekend two vehicles were in the road right across from each other. I almost clipped a tree because I couldn’t turn wide enough because of a toad (thank goodness for my better-half stopping me).
Is this normal? Is my idea of courtesy and common sense different from everyone else? (Don’t get me started on big dogs barking every hour around camp).
Thanks ahead of time for everyone’s input.
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:21 PM   #2
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To-date I've always found a smile and a simple request to move a vehicle works just great.

Granted, it's basically rude and stupid to block obvious roadways/paths/etc. But, stupidity is not something we should take offense at and certainly cannot try to battle against as the other party probably has years of experience at their craft.

As I grow older I continue to find wonderful/daily reasons to shake my head back and forth in amazement - probably good for my neck muscles...
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:40 PM   #3
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While in Quartzite this last winter we had one in the next site park so close to our truck we couldn't open the passenger door.

But this isn't new. For a while we were renting our house out and living in apartments when Target was in their new store opening blitz (I was already retired my wife worked for Target).

Anyway..... We had a garage connected to our unit and one across the drive. On several occasions my wife would open the garage door to go to work and there would be a car parked the other side. At first I'd knock on doors to get somebody to move them. Then I just started having them towed. I even had them towed when we had no place to go.

Made it up to I think three or four before people learned.
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:43 PM   #4
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Good advice about the smile. In the past when someone would cut me off driving down the road, I’d have my middle finger on speed-dial. But now I keep my cool and move on. You can’t tell a psychopath from the car they drive. Especially here in California.
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As a relative Newbie Iím still learning. ...
Is this normal? Is my idea of courtesy and common sense different from everyone else? (Donít get me started on big dogs barking every hour around camp).
Thanks ahead of time for everyoneís input.

Yeah, it's normal. Seems like it just comes with the territory.


We have found vehicles parked in "our spot" when we arrive at our site. And people using "our table." Not worth getting excited about; if you can't find them or they don't want to cooperate, then you have to get park management to resolve.


Unfortunately these things crop up at the point when you are tired from a day of driving and really just want to get settled in and relax.



And the barking dogs? Yep...that's fairly normal too. But some parks have firm rules about that and will kick people out if there are too many complaints.
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I think it is especially difficult in 2021 with so many newbie campers that don't understand camping etiquette. Like park in your spot only, Don't Park on the grass unless approved, Don't block the roads, Don't walk through other campers spots, Keep your dog on a leash at all times, Pick up after your dog, I think you see where I am going.

I noticed this year it has been crazy at most campgrounds I am normally calm but a few times this year I have had to bite my lip. One that really gets me is the Barking dog tied to a tree with no one around for hours.

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One that really gets me is the Barking dog tied to a tree with no one around for hours.



That's just wrong on many levels...

That dog isn't a pet, he's a prisoner...
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I think it is especially difficult in 2021 with so many newbie campers that don't understand camping etiquette. Like park in your spot only, Don't Park on the grass unless approved, Don't block the roads, Don't walk through other campers spots, Keep your dog on a leash at all times, Pick up after your dog, I think you see where I am going.

I noticed this year it has been crazy at most campgrounds I am normally calm but a few times this year I have had to bite my lip. One that really gets me is the Barking dog tied to a tree with no one around for hours.


So true. This year is a total different experience. A smile usually works. Every rig should come a "rules of camping" flyer with the sales info.
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By the way we rescued the dog from the tree and kept it with us until owners returned. Amazing that it stopped barking with some attention. But as soon as owners returned again they tied him to tree and then walked away. That is when the ranger came by and asked them to leave because they had many complaints.

Some people should not have dogs. I am afraid they took it out on the dog but it was not his fault they are crappy humans.

BTW my wife talked me out of tying them to the tree.
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Unfortunately I see this quite frequently. Other campers taking liberties with interior campground roads because they have too much camper/vehicle length or too many vehicles. Many campgrounds were not designed for rigs as large as mine and even in a perfect scenario things can be tight. Add to that some obstacles and it's a recipe for headache. Not picking on the fifth wheel crowd but I think I see more very large 5ers with large trucks "borrowing" from common interior roads or other sites than other rigs.
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And somehow the idea of parking your stuff in the overflow if it won't fit in your campsight is completely unheard of. It's so much better to encroach of the property of others. If the management won't enforce the rules, then the rules don't matter. But what about common courtesy?
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It's not just camping. As a country we've become more and more impolite. Just look at the number of recent incidents with passengers assaulting flight attendants on commercial airliners as an example. Some people think rules don't apply to them and that they are an assault on their personal freedoms.

I agree through that's it's better to turn the other cheek most of the time, which is far from what I would have done with most of these weasels 20 years ago.
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It's not just camping. As a country we've become more and more impolite. Just look at the number of recent incidents with passengers assaulting flight attendants on commercial airliners as an example. Some people think rules don't apply to them and that they are an assault on their personal freedoms.

I agree through that's it's better to turn the other cheek most of the time, which is far from what I would have done with most of these weasels 20 years ago.
Oh I could not agree more!!!

I have a solution (that unfortunately will never be implemented) that would solve a lot in this country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay
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I've encountered that problem several times, but each time the owner was nice about moving it!
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