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PuebloPete · 03-29-2019, 01:10 PM

I hate posting this since there is a million tire threads out there but I couldn't find what I was looking for. I was going to go with Toyo tires this time around 245/70R19.5 and was wondering what the opinion was on these two models? They both have the same load rating. Thanks in advance!

lllkrob · 03-29-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PuebloPete

I hate posting this since there is a million tire threads out there but I couldn't find what I was looking for. I was going to go with Toyo tires this time around 245/70R19.5 and was wondering what the opinion was on these two models? They both have the same load rating. Thanks in advance!

The only difference between the two is the tread pattern. For an RV I would prefer the M143 tread pattern to give better wet weather performance.

theroc · 03-29-2019, 03:51 PM

Other subtle differences from Toyo specifications are:

M154 will give slightly better mileage as they are designed for maximum fuel efficiency ...not a huge factor for RV use, however

Fuel efficiency rating from Toyo for M154 = 5.0

Fuel efficiency rating from Toyo for M143 = 4.0

M143 will give slight better tread life ...again, not a factor for RV use,

Tread life rating from Toyo for M143 = 4.0

Tread life rating from Toyo for M154 = 3.0

M154 will give slight better traction,

Traction rating from Toyo for M154 = 3.0

Traction rating from Toyo for M143 = 2.5

M154 has a significantly better cut/chip resistance rating,

Cut/chip resistance rating from Toyo for M154 = 4.0

Cut/chip resistance rating from Toyo for M143 = 2.5

Price generally, I believe, will be pretty close. Last I checked, the M143 was just slightly higher priced

(eta: the above is correct pertaining to price as I just checked Simple Tire prices and in your size the M154 is $360.27 and the M143 is 368.37 so for example, the difference for 6 tires would be $48.60 ($8.10 per tire difference)

RayChez1 · 03-29-2019, 08:06 PM

I really like Toyo tires. I have the bigger tires then what you want, but they are M-154 and they are excellent tires. Smooth ride and I have not had any problems with cupping or rivering, the tread wears even on my coach. Mine are 22.5 tires size 265x75 I believe. But to answer your question they are very good tires.

scbwr · 04-01-2019, 05:45 AM

I went with the 154s and have no regrets....after 3K plus miles.

dieselclacker · 04-01-2019, 07:26 AM

The 143’s are an excellent choice for your 19.5 rim size. I have been running them for seven years on the rear, and four years on the front of our motor home which is on a Workhorse W-20 chassis. Quiet, smooth riding, long even wearing tire.

fkloster · 04-01-2019, 08:10 AM

M-154's here on 22.5 Alcoas... going on 9 years.... no cracks no problems great purchase

PuebloPete · 04-01-2019, 08:41 AM

Thank you all for your comments. I was going to go with the M154s but they seem to be hard to find in my area or I have to drive 30 minutes to a place that has them, but one of the local tire people can get the M143s. Good price at $297. FYI, I had pondered on buying them from Simple tire, but man there are a lot of horror stories out there about them and when I called it was a 30 minute wait to talk to someone.

fkloster · 04-01-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PuebloPete

Thank you all for your comments. I was going to go with the M154s but they seem to be hard to find in my area or I have to drive 30 minutes to a place that has them, but one of the local tire people can get the M143s. Good price at $297. FYI, I had pondered on buying them from Simple tire, but man there are a lot of horror stories out there about them and when I called it was a 30 minute wait to talk to someone.

make sure date tags are current on the tires you buy..

Dale70 · 04-01-2019, 10:36 AM

I second the Date comment.

Call before you go there and ask for date codes.
If they cannot provide dates that is a poor sign
If you just go and then ask about dates it is too late in my opinion.
Your options are then very limited.

I have TOYO's and have found them excellent.
Just not your size on my DP.

theroc · 04-01-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PuebloPete

Thank you all for your comments. I was going to go with the M154s but they seem to be hard to find in my area or I have to drive 30 minutes to a place that has them, but one of the local tire people can get the M143s. Good price at $297. FYI, I had pondered on buying them from Simple tire, but man there are a lot of horror stories out there about them and when I called it was a 30 minute wait to talk to someone.

For RV use, either will be just fine and you'll be making a good decision as it sounds like you are getting them for a good price.

No, I wasn't trying to nudge you into using Simple Tire. I just pulled it up to compare prices between the two models you were attempting to compare as on a Google search, their prices are displayed without even opening their webpage. I agree that they do have a lot of complaints and even their prices are not the best.

You're making a good choice, enjoy the ride.

PuebloPete · 07-01-2019, 11:15 AM

So I've now had my Toyos for about 1200 miles. They do ride smooth. But I do have a complaint. Then tend to wander around. Kind of like your getting blown by the wind and you have to keep correcting but there isn't any wind.
I didn't have that with the Goodyears that were on there. Anyone experience that? I've checked my pressures and set them to the recommended 92 psi. When I had them put on they were around 104.

HJLowell · 07-01-2019, 06:54 PM

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So I've now had my Toyos for about 1200 miles. They do ride smooth. But I do have a complaint. Then tend to wander around. Kind of like your getting blown by the wind and you have to keep correcting but there isn't any wind.
I didn't have that with the Goodyears that were on there. Anyone experience that? I've checked my pressures and set them to the recommended 92 psi. When I had them put on they were around 104.

Did you wonder with the 104 air pressure?

PuebloPete · 07-03-2019, 08:07 AM

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Did you wonder with the 104 air pressure?

Yes, the first time I drove it was horrible. Like I was on ice. Its hard to explain, like an input steering response delay, more like you drift to the right so you correct it and nothing happens and you keep correcting until it grabs, then shoots the other way and you constantly do that.

I think it is better now and especially that I put some miles on it, but still wanders a bit.