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Old 02-05-2017, 04:38 PM   #1
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Trik l start users question

I just installed a trik l start on my 04 journey and I believe this is only supposed to charge the chassis battery when ac power is available, not steal it from the house batteries. I installed mine and on the volt meter inside the rv the chassis battery voltage went up before I plugged in my rv. Anyone have similar experience?
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Was the coach engine running? Did you wired into an inverter?
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:05 PM   #3
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If your house bank was full charged and you just stopped charging it, it will have a higher voltage then the Trik L Starts cutout threshold. Somewhere around 13.2 maybe ?

After a while the surface charge will dissipate and it will disconnect. That is if it is wired correctly.
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The trick l start uses house battery power to maintain the chassis batteries. I wired mine at the isolated or the instructions. Pretty simple. Works well.
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The coach was not running. I don't know if I wired into an inverter, I followed the Winnebago service bulletin for instructions
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Yes your scenario can happen if the house battery is fully charged and the chassis battery is not. No AC required for the event.

This is my experience.

It is no big deal.
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Yes your scenario can happen if the house battery is fully charged and the chassis battery is not. No AC required for the event.

This is my experience.

It is no big deal.
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'Stealing from the house batteries' is exactly what it's designed to do. There are indicator lights on the Trik-L-Start box you can check to see what it's doing right now, but what probably happened is that the TLS measured the voltage on your house batts, saw that your chassis batts were low, and started the charging process. It will only do that if the house batts are high enough or if you're plugged into shore power and it measures a high enough voltage.

An Inverter has nothing to do with a Trik-L-Start. Entirely different system that takes battery voltage and inverts it to 120Vac to run small, low power, AC devices.
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Thanks for the help. I was under the impression the TLS would only supply power to the chassis battery when ac source was charging the house batteries. From what you are all saying the TLS is doing what it's supposed to be doing
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"An Inverter has nothing to do with a Trik-L-Start. Entirely different system that takes battery voltage and inverts it to 120Vac to run small, low power, AC devices."

Quite true, but nowadays most MHs have an Inverter/Charger, so it will charge the house batteries. If they are up to snuff the trkl charger will then draw power from them to charge the chassis batteries. I use an Ampl Charger, same principle and it will not draw the house batteries down. My inverter/charger keeps the house batteries up.

Unless you take it in to have work done on it and for some unexplained reason they disconnect the wire from the chassis battery and forget to tell you - after you have already serviced your batteries and don't check. result two frozen chassis batteries

P.S. the BIRD on my MH doesn't work so I use the Ampl Charge which has always worked in the past (when connected!)

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Thanks for the help. I was under the impression the TLS would only supply power to the chassis battery when ac source was charging the house batteries. From what you are all saying the TLS is doing what it's supposed to be doing
Your first impression was correct. The Amp-L-Start will not draw from the house batteries if they are not being charged by the inverter/charger or another charging source.
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Still some misconceptions...

The converter, or inverter, or Converter/Inverter device have nothing to do with the Trik-L-Start except incidentally. The TLS will steal power from the set that has the highest charge, and give it to the set with the lower charge. Only one way though, it cannot swap it's wires automatically.

It will start operating if the House batts have a great enough charge AND the chassis batteries are lower by a measurable amount. And it will stop operating when the chassis batteries are within 0.2 Volts of the house batteries OR if the house batts voltage drops to to low a level. So there's no danger of it drawing your house batts down to much if you're not plugged into shore power.

It cares not whether you're plugged into shore power or not, it works strictly on measurable battery voltage and will not draw down the house batts.

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According to LSL, the manufacturer, the amp-L-start will not transfer charge if it is not plugged into shore power. This is from their site.

Will the house battery continue to try to charge the engine battery if the shorepower is not connected?

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No, it will only charge when you are connected to shore power.
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That's a pretty safe and generic answer.

What about with the generator or solar input ?

There is a voltage threshold, on the house battery that needs to meet, before the TLS sends some current thru.

It doesn't know where it's comming from.
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