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Old 08-07-2017, 07:35 AM   #15
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I saw the RV in Florida that Sunny1 was referring to. If possible, I would prefer to buy local. The one I am looking at is identical from what I can tell from the photos. I am considering offering 42k and will settle for no more than 45k if the seller is will to negotiate.
You may be able to buy one below low retail, but then again may be not. I put my coach up for sale at MY price, which is a bit above low retail. If it don't bring what I have it priced at it will stay right where it is. If it is a good clean coach and is well maintained, why would you expect to buy it thousands below low retail? Why would a coach with NEW tires NOT be worth more than a coach with 5 year old tires? That don't make any sense. Don't forget you may be liable for sales tax even when buying from a private seller. In IL. you will be liable for sales tax when buying from a private seller, that's a fact. You may have to PROVE how much you pay for a coach, if you claim you bought it for less than full retail. I just went through this. It's a good thing the fellow I bought mine from required both of us to sign a receipt to show the sell date and price. He thought he was protecting himself, but he ended up protecting me too. The state wanted to charge me sales tax on full retail price, and I had to give them a copy of the purchase price. A copy of the cashiers check wasn't suffice either.
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:59 AM   #16
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I saw the RV in Florida that Sunny1 was referring to. If possible, I would prefer to buy local. The one I am looking at is identical from what I can tell from the photos. I am considering offering 42k and will settle for no more than 45k if the seller is will to negotiate.


Sounds like a good plan. It's nice to find something local. Those willing to travel can save substantial amounts on the same unit thanks to how easy it is to gather info and shop via the internet.

There are so many variables in how a seller comes about the price they want for whatever it is they're selling - the problem that I read about most often on here is that many sellers add an emotional value to their unit. If someone is selling the exact unit you want, and it's in exceptional condition and there are no others like it around then that favors the seller for sure, and they may be able to command a price close to retail. However, they don't have all of the overhead expenses of a dealer, and therefore if I were interested in a unit that was a private sale, and they were priced in the retail range and wouldn't budge on their price - I'd walk in a heartbeat out of principal because they don't have the overhead expenses that a dealership has, and in my mind they are just being greedy. I know - I know, some will say they should get the same that a dealer would, but I respectfully disagree. I read a JD Powers article that discussed this exact thing and it said a private party sale will generally be somewhere above trade in value and below retail. While I'm sure there are some exceptions, the bottom line is you need to feel good about what you're paying for an RV, and you especially need to make sure you're not overpaying for something because you just gotta have it. Doing that will bite you in the rear end when the day comes for you to be on the selling side of the equation.

Anyways, thats my advice and thoughts on the subject. It's worth what you paid for it
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I saw on pplmotorhomes.com they have a 2007 34n with 23k miles for $34995.00. Might want to compare with the one you are looking at. Good luck
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Thanks for the replies. The more research I do, the more I think the seller is asking too much for the motorhome I am looking at. I believe it should be priced more in the $35,000 - $42,000 range.
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Remember that the pricing discussions you will see are referencing an average coach. There is a lot of crap out there and it's my opinion that if you find the rare diamond then don't let it get away. That said.....$50k is too high!
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Sorry!!! It is a 2007 and has the Ford V10 with automatic transmission. The NADA value is $48,178 lower retail and $57,685 average retail. All tires are brand new.
Say what and not what I'm seeing here.... https://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/2007/...3045749/Values
Even at that, many like us, paid below low retail and if you go over to PPL's site, you'll see that even the asking prices are below NADA low retail. In most cases, you can buy low mileage rigs in excellent condition for this.
NADA isn't a bible, but it does work pretty well for comparison purposes.
There are a lot of nice coaches out there for sale and not like it's the only one and yes it is all about the money. Many will pay top dollar, start worrying about fuel mileage and pay no attention to their depreciation per mile.
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Seems a little high but a good negotiating starting point- I had 45k in my mind if it has new tires.

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There are three prices for everything.

1) The price the seller wants for the item.
2) The price the buyer wants to pay for the item.
3) The price somewhere between 1 and 2 that is fair.

Just thought of number 4
4) The price where both buyer and seller feel they got fair value. This is the best price.
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There are three prices for everything.

1) The price the seller wants for the item.
2) The price the buyer wants to pay for the item.
3) The price somewhere between 1 and 2 that is fair.

Just thought of number 4
4) The price where both buyer and seller feel they got fair value. This is the best price.
One more and like some years ago, when we traded an old motorhome for a boat and we each felt that we got the best end of the deal! I'm sure I did to this day. Don't know about him.
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You may be able to buy one below low retail, but then again may be not. I put my coach up for sale at MY price, which is a bit above low retail. If it don't bring what I have it priced at it will stay right where it is. If it is a good clean coach and is well maintained, why would you expect to buy it thousands below low retail? Why would a coach with NEW tires NOT be worth more than a coach with 5 year old tires? That don't make any sense. Don't forget you may be liable for sales tax even when buying from a private seller. In IL. you will be liable for sales tax when buying from a private seller, that's a fact. You may have to PROVE how much you pay for a coach, if you claim you bought it for less than full retail. I just went through this. It's a good thing the fellow I bought mine from required both of us to sign a receipt to show the sell date and price. He thought he was protecting himself, but he ended up protecting me too. The state wanted to charge me sales tax on full retail price, and I had to give them a copy of the purchase price. A copy of the cashiers check wasn't suffice either.
Yep, I always get a signed bill of sale and have paid 6 cents sales tax on more than one car and in more than one state.
As far as one always getting their price, buyers like me don't usually care as there are just so many nice ones out there to be had. I know this from a sellers standpoint too and sold our last coach below NADA low retail. Sold it to a used car dealer who wanted an exceptional one for his family and in retrospect, I think I could have easily gotten more out of this guy...lol
Also think I could have bought the one I did for less. Oh well...
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