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Old 10-07-2021, 05:05 PM   #1
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Water coming up the shower

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Water coming up thr shower. Tried snake, baking soda & Vinegar. No good! Chked gray water valve. It was closed, but had hard time pulling and closing. Like it doesnt feel correct in pulling/closing value.
How in the world, do I get to that valve??? Its behind the panel. Also, its leaking under the shower drain ( black pipe that connects to shower drain. How do I seal that?
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Pull the grey valve and use coat hanger or similar device and run up from the dump to see if the valve is still closed, blocking flow. Fastest way to check to see if the valve is still closed when you pull the handle. If still closed and the handle is pulled then it needs replaced.
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Old 10-07-2021, 07:07 PM   #3
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Hi Cutch!
Very bright idea!!! Thank you, very much. Will try on Saturday, will let you know results!
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Old 10-07-2021, 07:19 PM   #4
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Sounds like your grey water tank is overfull.

When was the last time you dumped it?
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Old 10-07-2021, 09:45 PM   #5
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Sounds like your grey water tank is overfull.

When was the last time you dumped it?
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Dump or is the issue it does not dump
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Old 10-07-2021, 09:56 PM   #6
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"Its behind the panel. Also, its leaking under the shower drain ( black pipe that connects to shower drain. How do I seal that?"

Drain valve not opening and shower drain leaking....gonna need to open up the 'panel' as in remove it so you can access BOTH drump valve and the shower drain

Shower drain will have a 'P' trap just like regular house plumbing
Hopefully it is just a loose fitting and not a cracked line
But until you remove the panel and access it anything would be a guess

Same with dump valve.
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Old 10-08-2021, 02:28 PM   #7
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Hi!
Im going to take apart the panel. The value is way in the back! I will let you folks know the outcome. Thank you, all!
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BigBert-

Before you take out the wet bay "white panel," look on the opposite side of the coach (that is, the passenger side) for an access hatch into that area.

Our coaches may be similar; once Monaco made certain design decisions, they hung onto them for years. On our coach, there is a hatch in the passenger-side storage bay opposite the wet bay. It is in the compartment in front of the battery bay. The hatch is small- about 12 by 20 inches- made of sheet aluminum and screwed into the compartment wall. By climbing through that hatch, you can reach the black and grey water valves, and the Ford in-the-gas-tank fuel pump.

Or, you could remove the white panel; I have. Pictures are here. A sample picture is below. You can just make out the grey water valve in the fourth and fifth pictures at that link. I could barely reach the grey water valve with the panel removed, but not the black water valve. That has to be done via the hatch.

I have since rebuilt the piping so I don't have to squeeze through that hatch to get to (those) dump valves any more. The cables are gone, too.

I hope this might save you some time and trouble.

Finally, you should add a "signature" to your profile. It contains whatever info you want; most people put info about their coach there, so they don't have to type it into each message. Instructions for adding a signature are here.


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Old 10-12-2021, 12:57 PM   #9
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Hi!
Thank you so much on your information! It was exactly what I needed. So amazing, they (Holiday Rambler) dont provide this type of information!
I was able to remove the old value. I moved it behind the panel that houses the sewer system. It took 1 1/2 days for me to repair the problem. It was plug up at the mouth of Gray water tank!!! I was able to use a wirer fisher to poke inside that tank! It just came pouring out!!! What a Mess!!! I like to include my pictures, but I trying to figure how to do that.. Again, Big thanks to you and everyone else that responded.
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Gray water smell worse than the black water. I always put some Happy Camper in the gray water tank. This eliminates the smell of the gray water. Now you also found out that the only reliable tank sensor is:
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Just the post I did or did not need to see. This trip out I have developed a new problem with my black water tank I had started to suspect. It appears the original owners heirs may have used the coach connected with the valves open. When I dumped the other day it initially emptied just fine and then when I was flushing it clean, it slowed to a trickle and the flusher was refilling the tank. I let it sit with the valve open and it drained slowly again. I went ahead and turned the flusher back on and let it refill to about 1/3 and threw in a couple new enzyme paks. We boogie from here Thursday morning, so I'll dump on Wednesday afternoon and hope for the best. I think I'll fill the tank back to about a 1/3 and give it another double dose of enzymes, 500+ miles of sloshing around on the way home should bust things up a bit. I might have to grab a snake from the house before I dump in case I need to break things up from the toilet end. I plan to overhaul the wet bay and replace my dump valves since I don't trust them(damn grey leaks anyhow).
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Thank you so much on your information! It was exactly what I needed. So amazing, they (Holiday Rambler) dont provide this type of information!
I was able to remove the old value. I moved it behind the panel that houses the sewer system. It took 1 1/2 days for me to repair the problem. It was plug up at the mouth of Gray water tank!!! I was able to use a wirer fisher to poke inside that tank! It just came pouring out!!! What a Mess!!! I like to include my pictures, but I trying to figure how to do that.. Again, Big thanks to you and everyone else that responded.

Bert, did you replace both of your valves while you were in there? It might be prudent, one thing you said caught my attention was that you had enough solids in your grey tank to plug the outlet. There should not be that much solid material in your grey tank so you could have some leakage problems. Then of course there is the age of the valves if you have not replaced them before.
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Hi!

No, only the one for the Gray tank. But, yes there is a leak under the shower drain. At first, it was loose. So, I tightened it. But, it still is leaking. I think, I need to put a new seal. That black tank value, it is working. It is right behind the panel, so it wont be too much work to replace if it goes south on me. BTW, can you explain how to paste pictures? Again, Thank you.
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BTW, can you explain how to paste pictures? Again, Thank you.

When you add a post, scroll down a bit and you'll see "Manage Attachments".
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