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Old 04-20-2017, 03:47 PM   #1
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What Comes First?

The recent spate of blowout horror stories combined with the fact that the date codes on my current tires show I'm coming up on the six year AND that I've got a couple of long trips coming up later this year - have convinced me that now is the time to bite the bullet and put new rubber on the beast.

In addition to new tires - I want to see about having the coach alignment looked at (it consistently pulls to the right a bit).

Here's my dilemma - the tire folks don't do front end alignments on large coaches - which means I need to take the coach to a truck shop in order to have the alignment done.

My question for the group is simple: In which order should I have this work performed?
  • Have the tires installed then have the alignment performed?
  • Have the alignment performed then have the tires mounted?
  • Does it really matter what gets done first - knowing both tasks are going to be completed over a two day stretch.
What's your recommendation?
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:53 PM   #2
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Tires first, then a straight non stop trip to the alignment shop.
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:55 PM   #3
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Tires first. The new tires will be slightly larger than the old (worn) tires.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:26 PM   #4
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Tires first is the norm, but I liked to see the old tires to see what kind of wear pattern they had on them. Most likely yours are just normal wear if it was driving OK. Mention to them about the slight pull, it may be something as simple as the old tires causing it. I have seen trucks pulling one way, and by simply swapping tires side to side, it pulled the other way.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:38 PM   #5
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The recent spate of blowout horror stories combined with the fact that the date codes on my current tires show I'm coming up on the six year AND that I've got a couple of long trips coming up later this year - have convinced me that now is the time to bite the bullet and put new rubber on the beast.

In addition to new tires - I want to see about having the coach alignment looked at (it consistently pulls to the right a bit).

Here's my dilemma - the tire folks don't do front end alignments on large coaches - which means I need to take the coach to a truck shop in order to have the alignment done.

My question for the group is simple: In which order should I have this work performed?
  • Have the tires installed then have the alignment performed?
  • Have the alignment performed then have the tires mounted?
  • Does it really matter what gets done first - knowing both tasks are going to be completed over a two day stretch.
What's your recommendation?
Have the tires installed then have the alignment performed.

Where will you have this work performed - I might come get your tires for the nest 3-5 years - if they still have tread on them pretty sure they will be fine. In my 50 years I have no recollection of a tire failure do to age - Nails, Bolts, Rebar, Curbs, Underinflation, but not Age.

In my years in the Construction business with Tractors Trailers, Dump Trucks, Service Trucks, we never threw out a tire for AGE.

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Have the tires installed then have the alignment performed.

Where will you have this work performed - I might come get your tires for the nest 3-5 years - if they still have tread on them pretty sure they will be fine. In my 50 years I have no recollection of a tire failure do to age - Nails, Bolts, Rebar, Curbs, Underinflation, but not Age.

In my years in the Construction business with Tractors Trailers, Dump Trucks, Service Trucks, we never threw out a tire for AGE.

JMHO,
Let's see.....if you blow out a tire on your dump truck and the tire gator (slab of rubber) eats a mud flap or slaps the underside of the dump it's no big deal. If I blow a tire and the tire gator eats my color coordinated fiberglass wheel well, it is a big expensive deal. The RV tire experts recommend 7 years. I agree!

I replaced my last coach's tires after 7 years and sold the take offs to a friend that has a dump truck because they had a lot of tread left. Later he told me that within three months all six had blow outs or threw off the tread.

Me thinks you should go to Las Vegas, because you are a lucky man!
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Tires always first & we're not just referring to MH.
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Everyone says tires first. I don't think it matters. Last spring I had the front of our coach aligned due to wear on the outer edge of both front tires. It drove fine before and drove fine after the alignment. Both wheels were toed in. Then last summer, I had the tag tires swapped with the steer to get a much better tread up front and have the worn steers on the tag where they carry much less weight. After another 7000 miles the coach still drives with two fingers and the wear is uniform across the tread. I'm no tire expert, but it's the wheels that are getting aligned and it doesn't matter. The adjustments and settings to the suspension and steering are the same whether old or new tires are on it.
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Let's see.....if you blow out a tire on your dump truck and the tire gator (slab of rubber) eats a mud flap or slaps the underside of the dump it's no big deal. If I blow a tire and the tire gator eats my color coordinated fiberglass wheel well, it is a big expensive deal. The RV tire experts recommend 7 years. I agree!

I replaced my last coach's tires after 7 years and sold the take offs to a friend that has a dump truck because they had a lot of tread left. Later he told me that within three months all six had blow outs or threw off the tread.

Me thinks you should go to Las Vegas, because you are a lucky man!
Sorry for your friend - in 30 years we had flats but NEVER a blow out.

IMHO - if you check your tires - Really look at them you can usually prevent the problems.

Been to Vegas but just to see a show - I'm really not into Gambling.

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Yeah, please don't listen to Tall Tex. Yikes.
It really doesn't make a difference which you do first if you are only talking a few days. The alignment tools are installed on the rims so the tire itself will not make much of a difference. Maybe a little if you have worn through the old tire tread and it is 1/2" smaller than the new but I would not be concerned.
Recommendation is to do the tires first then the next day do the alignment. You aren't going to wear the tires abnormally in a day should your alignment be out. You would have noticed some really bad wear patterns on the old tires if it was out considerably.
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I took pics of the steer tire wear, had the new tires mounted, and went to a truck frame and alignment shop.
They viewed the pics and nodded, then trued the new tires for perfect roundness, and adjusted the toe-in. $130
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