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Old 07-03-2021, 08:20 PM   #15
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National average for diesel in Nov 2020 was $2.432. Now it is $3.287. That is an increase of 35%. Gasoline was $2.086, now $3.035. Up 45%. So fuel does cost a lot more, but if we wanted cheap we would not drive an RV. See the chart at https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_nus_m.htm
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Old 07-03-2021, 08:21 PM   #16
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The following from my fuel spreadsheet for average diesel fuel prices that we paid:

2017 - $2.75
2018 - $3.28
2019 - $3.15
2020 - $1.97 (one snowbird trip from NV to AZ)

The year with our highest travel mileage was 2018.
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Old 07-04-2021, 12:35 PM   #17
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None. We did not buy a motorhome to get good mileage or to save money.

Airfare, car rental and much more increase with the cost of fuel. Our choices boil down to staying home or having and adventure. I suppose, if the prices are waaaaaay high we'd just choose places to camp closer to home.
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Old 07-04-2021, 01:12 PM   #18
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My thread seems to have struck a nerve with some of you. Maybe I should have re-phrased it a little. First off, my travel plans have not changed but the direction we're headed, it could. So let me re-phrase my question.
At what price does the cost of fuel become a contributing factor?

$5.00 a gal?
$6.00 a gal?
Maybe it doesn't.
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Old 07-04-2021, 01:33 PM   #19
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As much as some say it has no impact, there are a lot of people on fixed incomes/SS, that enjoy travelling a little farther and more often, but high gas prices will curtail their travels. Seems many are quick to forget that a recession with high fuel prices, just about sank the RV industry, just ten years ago.

My personal opinion.....let electric cars worked their way into society, rather than trying to shove them down our throat. People really like them and will buy them, without being coerced.
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Maybe it doesn't.[/QUOTE]

Nope. Doesnt. As others have said, if it was going to be a problem, I wouldnt RV.
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Old 07-04-2021, 01:40 PM   #21
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Up over 50% here in Colorado since last year. Have gone from 20 cents a mile to 33 cents. If it keeps climbing, my travel plans will change. That said, I'm not a full timer but pretty sure it has to impact those of you that are.


I dont like fuel prices going up but it want change a thing . Diesel was $5.00 a gallon when I purchased it. When you figure all of the expenses of own a MH any fuel increases are a drop in the bucket .
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My thread seems to have struck a nerve with some of you. Maybe I should have re-phrased it a little. First off, my travel plans have not changed but the direction we're headed, it could. So let me re-phrase my question.
At what price does the cost of fuel become a contributing factor?

$5.00 a gal?
$6.00 a gal?
Maybe it doesn't.
It is tempting to say that price makes no difference to me, but that is true only within some reasonable range. Would $4.00 a gallon make a difference? No. Would $40.00 a gallon make a difference. Definitely yes.

And it is more than just the cost of travel. If gas/diesel prices rise too much it will kill the RV industry and thus shut down all of the RV related businesses as well. Who is going to run an RV park if gas prices are so high that no one feels able to travel? Who is going to run RV repair shops when there are no RVs on the road due to $50.00/gallon prices or gas rationing or gas shortages?

One other related item. What is going to happen to gas/diesel stations in places like California and Washington when new gas or diesel vehicles can not be purchased or registered? And what is that going to do to RV travel in those states? Or RV repair shops? The entire RV industry depends upon reasonable access to fuel at reasonable prices and if that disappears the RV industry may not be far behind.

Yes. Some people believe that RVs will transition to electric, but I am not sure that the technology will be ready for 40 foot 10 ton RVs running on batteries in the next few years. I think it is more likely that RVs will have to shrink in size and weight to accommodate electric operation and that is one more thing that may have an adverse affect on the RV industry. Are those people who love their 40 or 45 foot diesel pushers going to be satisfied with a 30 foot electric Class C?

But then perhaps I am just a pessimist.
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Colorado in March instead of Utah in Feb. What was I thinking, anyway?
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It is tempting to say that price makes no difference to me, but that is true only within some reasonable range. Would $4.00 a gallon make a difference? No. Would $40.00 a gallon make a difference. Definitely yes.

And it is more than just the cost of travel. If gas/diesel prices rise too much it will kill the RV industry and thus shut down all of the RV related businesses as well. Who is going to run an RV park if gas prices are so high that no one feels able to travel? Who is going to run RV repair shops when there are no RVs on the road due to $50.00/gallon prices or gas rationing or gas shortages?

One other related item. What is going to happen to gas/diesel stations in places like California and Washington when new gas or diesel vehicles can not be purchased or registered? And what is that going to do to RV travel in those states? Or RV repair shops? The entire RV industry depends upon reasonable access to fuel at reasonable prices and if that disappears the RV industry may not be far behind.

Yes. Some people believe that RVs will transition to electric, but I am not sure that the technology will be ready for 40 foot 10 ton RVs running on batteries in the next few years. I think it is more likely that RVs will have to shrink in size and weight to accommodate electric operation and that is one more thing that may have an adverse affect on the RV industry. Are those people who love their 40 or 45 foot diesel pushers going to be satisfied with a 30 foot electric Class C?

But then perhaps I am just a pessimist.
Good post. Just my personal opinion but I don’t think electric vehicles will have any affect on RVing, even in places that are phasing out sales of light vehicles and trucks in the next 15 years like most of Europe, most of Asia, all of Canada as well as certain US states. I haven’t seen any planned phase outs of heavy vehicles yet so motorhomes are safe for awhile. Electric pickups will evolve so much in the next 15 years that no one will want a gas pickup in 15 years. Diesel, who knows. Diesel is very good at the heavy lifting stuff.

I think petrol companies will have a lot of pressure on them to keep prices down or the transition to electric vehicles will just go faster. For most people all it takes is a test drive and it’s over. Right now where we are it costs about 1/5 to go somewhere in an electric car than a gas car. If prices of gas go up to 7 or 8 times as much the decision is even easier. And the maintenance of an EV is pretty close to zero and that’s from personal experience. Petrol companies know all this and I suspect if anything they will find a way to drop prices not raise them, and maybe even increase oil change intervals to 3 or 4 times what they are. Whatever it takes to keep customers. Right now they lose around 6000 customers a day to people buying vehicles without gas tanks, exhaust pipes and oil sumps. In two years that will be double, and two years later double that again. Petrol companies will do whatever it takes to slow that down. It can’t be stopped but it can be slowed down. And in the mean time they can develop new products for new markets. New plastics, new construction materials etc. It’s a big industry. It will survive and thrive. Just less so in the fuel industry.


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Nope. Doesnt. As others have said, if it was going to be a problem, I wouldnt RV.

Not everyone has a half a million to drop on a new RV and Toad but good for you, that you can.

I retired a year ago and am comfortable, have a new bass boat and a drift boat for fly fishing, but I still have to live modestly with my purchases. I now have to stop playing golf for a week prior to an RV trip. Just kidding but I would hate to see that happen.
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At some point price would make a difference. Just not there yet. have paid higher than what it is now.
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At some point price would make a difference. Just not there yet. have paid higher than what it is now.

Oh I remember diesel at 3.89 plus, in Idaho, that was about 5 years ago. If only there was a common denominator?
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Oh I remember diesel at 3.89 plus, in Idaho, that was about 5 years ago. If only there was a common denominator?
There is a common denominator, when the economy does well there is an increase in demand for gasoline/diesel which puts upward pressure on prices, conversely, when the economy declines, demand for gasoline/diesel declines, putting downward pressure on prices for gasoline/diesel.
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