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05-04-2015, 02:32 PM
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Junior Member
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Where can I buy a radiator?
Good afternoon,
I have been a long time reader of the forums and lots of valuable info here. Finally joined a couple of weeks back.
I recently purchased a 95 Winnebago with the P30 and 454. I have used the coach twice and am really liking it and plan to keep it for at least a few years before we upgrade.
When it comes to maintenance - especially the cooling system- I am really anal about keeping everything in tip top shape. The coach we bought is in very nice condition for the age and well cared for.
I decided to change out the cooling system parts, fan clutch, thermostat, etc just due to fact they are 20 years old. The radiator does have a couple of cold spots on it according the my thermo gun.
I am going to change it out for piece of mind. Lots of older posts I have read say to get a 3 or 4 row radiator. But my problem is I cannot find one anywhere online.
The majority today seem to be single row and there are a few 2 row radiators out there. I have read great things on the OReilly one but it is listed as single row.
Is this all that is available these days? Is anyone running these in their P30's with good success. Thanks for the input!
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05-04-2015, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Madison, MS
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You may want to ask the folks at: www.ultrarvproducts.com They are parts experts for Chevy/Workhorse chassis.
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05-04-2015, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Check out C, G, & J Inc in Gadsden, Alabama. C,G, & J Inc. Also, go for the most rows you can get.
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05-04-2015, 08:12 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Check out a local radiator shop, seems the nastier the better lol, to have it serviced for lots less than a new one. They can normally supply a new one if necessary.
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05-04-2015, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah_Jay
Good afternoon,
I have been a long time reader of the forums and lots of valuable info here. Finally joined a couple of weeks back.
I recently purchased a 95 Winnebago with the P30 and 454. I have used the coach twice and am really liking it and plan to keep it for at least a few years before we upgrade.
When it comes to maintenance - especially the cooling system- I am really anal about keeping everything in tip top shape. The coach we bought is in very nice condition for the age and well cared for.
I decided to change out the cooling system parts, fan clutch, thermostat, etc just due to fact they are 20 years old. The radiator does have a couple of cold spots on it according the my thermo gun.
I am going to change it out for piece of mind. Lots of older posts I have read say to get a 3 or 4 row radiator. But my problem is I cannot find one anywhere online.
The majority today seem to be single row and there are a few 2 row radiators out there. I have read great things on the OReilly one but it is listed as single row.
Is this all that is available these days? Is anyone running these in their P30's with good success. Thanks for the input!
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Utah_Jay,
Yes, as has been suggested, go to a local radiator shop. Obviously bring yours with you so they can match up all exact dimensions and, if possible at your request, see if they can obtain a 3 or 4 row. When I replaced ours, in our coach, an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT, Freightliner wanted around $1,740.00 for it and, it would have taken at least a week to 2, to get. But, the local radiator shop, matched it flawlessly and, a new copper/brass (the original was aluminum) was shipped to their door in 2 days. And, the best part, it was only (yeah only) $1,250.00.
So, a local shop is, in my opinion, your best bet for what you need.
Scott
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2004 ITASCA HORIZON 36GD, 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Toad '20 Honda NC750X DCT
2018 Goldwing Tour DCT Airbag
Retired-29.5 yrs, SDFD, Ham - KI6OND
Me, Karla and the Heidi character, (mini Schnauzer)!
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05-04-2015, 09:30 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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I agree with "Fire Up"....a good radiator shop can rebuild yours, using your tanks, adding another row and when you're done, you'll know it fits.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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05-04-2015, 10:33 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Triple E Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: STETTLER
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GM has a few hundred thousand P30 chassis out there. This was what all those big square bread trucks, and other delivery trucks were built on. Maybe try a GM parts department with your chassis number.
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05-05-2015, 07:06 AM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Your best option for a 20 year old rad is to go to a rad shop. They can fix yours or replace with the correct unit. Ordering on line is risky with that age. The numbers could be superseded a few times over as dealers try to pare down their inventory and you get something thats way off. I have been down that road with older vehicles and a good rad shop was the best option and the most reasonable.
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05-05-2015, 07:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
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I need one too. Thanks for the info. I am a fan of aluminum, here in AZ we need all the heat dispersment we can get. There must be someone making them.
http://store.stepvanparts.com/RADIAT...-65L-80825.HTM
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05-05-2015, 08:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
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As others stated...buy local.
We have many here and use one that is an old from the 30s or so place that is real crusty.
Made new heater core for front unit ib coach and recently recored unit for old bobcat.
You have recent common unit so ni need to pull it yet.
Just get yellow pages and start calling.
Ask for following procedures.
Rodding
Recore from whatever it is to 4 row
What else is common upgrade that can be done
Flat replacement
Then select your vendor and drive it there for them to look at it and confirm the quote.
Now pull it and hand it to them.
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1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
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05-05-2015, 12:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
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autozone 140 bucks
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05-05-2015, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member
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Really?
4 core and proper materials?
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1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
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05-05-2015, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mbridinger
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I kind-a thought I was an aluminum radiator proponent too. But, in consultation with the Radiator shop foreman who, had a serious stack of broken, leaking, damaged and more aluminum radiators that cannot be repaired, he stated that the actual cooling difference in a copper/brass one as opposed to an aluminum one of the same exact dimensions, core thickness, rows, tank size etc., there was/is very little difference in cooling effects.
That, coupled with the fact that I knew/know our coach/engine pretty well and it's temp gauge readings on various grades/hills/temp conditions etc. So, I know what the gauge read in all conditions when it had the aluminum one in it. And, I've been on just about all of the grades/hills/terrain/temps and alike with the copper/brass one and, the gauge reads the exact same in all conditions.
Now, this doesn't mean I don't like aluminum radiators. Not at all. I think they work well and, have their place. But, as I've proven to myself at least, that there's no difference in my application. And with that being said, then I surely can't agree to pay Freightliners price of $1,750.00 for a replacement aluminum one, as opposed to an aftermarket copper/brass one for $1,250.00. Probably just a preference thing.
Scott
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2004 ITASCA HORIZON 36GD, 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Toad '20 Honda NC750X DCT
2018 Goldwing Tour DCT Airbag
Retired-29.5 yrs, SDFD, Ham - KI6OND
Me, Karla and the Heidi character, (mini Schnauzer)!
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05-05-2015, 09:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TQ60
Really?
4 core and proper materials?
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aluminum 2 cores , I get tired of looking for the stock cooper brass 4 rows.
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