Which Tires

[Traveler2162]

I have been looking at Monaco coaches and everyone of them needs new tires. All aged out with 6 yrs or more.

I recently priced them and when I said I would be doing winter mountain driving he recommended

Vglory WVK Snow OS for the drive tires, << Chinese

Firestone FS591 for steer and tag
or

Roadmaster*RM832*tires* for steer and tag.

He said he puts lot of the VGlory tires on semis and dumptrucks and has no problems with them.

I also got a a quote for Toyos. Quite a bit more money.

What I don't want it problems down the road.

[Dennis C.]

You’re braver than I am if you choose to drive a motorhome in winter conditions in the mountains! I live in the Rocky Mountains west of Denver at about 8,000 feet of elevation. All of our cars are AWD and we run proper winter tires from mid-October to mid-May. I wouldn’t dream of driving my motorhome in winter conditions!

My question for you is: Are you planning to put winter tires on the drive axle and not the other axles? If so, why not put them in all positions? It the automotive world it’s not recommended to only place winter tires on the drive wheels. This can lead to unstable handling under braking or cornering on slippery roads. I’m curious - is the thinking different for motorhomes?

[Crasher]

I've never heard of the brand. The last thing I would want on my motorhome is a snow tire lug. If the roads get to the point they were needed, I would have already been parked with a hot toddy in my hand. The road noise alone would prevent me from getting them. Really cheap tires can be attractive, but I would spend the extra for TOYO's and travel with POM.

[Coachie]

Bought 6 Sailun all position tires replacing the Michelin and Goodyear combo I had.

Great tire, could not be happier.

[Skip426]

I consider my coach a 28,000#snow magnet , unless I'm traveling in July/August , I find snow somewhere along the route.

When I needed tires , Yokohama , was the only brand with traction tread in my size . Noise varies with pavement but I don't consider it objectionable .

I've hit 8" of snow on passes on the I-15 in ID, and 6" of slush on the I-5 in OR, and it's nice to know that I'm legal until the chain up signs go up .

Mid September road conditions in BC.

[KPAXTON]

Originally Posted by Traveler2162

I have been looking at Monaco coaches and everyone of them needs new tires. All aged out with 6 yrs or more.
I recently priced them and when I said I would be doing winter mountain driving he recommended
...
What I don't want it problems down the road.

So, I'm currently in a similar situation with looking at replacing all my Tires on my Rig (ouch). We bought a used 2002 Holiday Rambler (Monaco) with 6 Goodyear's that just turned 10 years old. Ours are actually in great shape - no checking at all, no scars or deformities, plenty of tread, etc. as it was stored under cover and such & well taken care of. But even with the varying 'guidelines' of age, they need replacement.

For one, I would suggest just be prepared for the bill. Replacing tires is not an inexpensive endeavor, nor should it necessarily be the 'cheapest' - those are what ground you and help keep you safe as you're traveling. And IF you're traveling during winter - just be extremely careful and choose your travel days wisely. I also agree that putting 'winter tires' on for year round driving might turn out to be unpleasant. IF you've the money to have (2) full sets, & swap between them, then knock yourself out!

First and foremost, is figuring out what Tires you need - this should be listed on your rig (ours is right behind our drivers seat.) If not the info should be printed on your tires. Ours are Goodyear G661 HSA's (all season) - 275 / 70R22.5 - 148/145L.

Doing research online has netted me a variety of options for my size of tire - such as Atlas, GreenMax, Blackhawk, Westlake, Goodyear, Roadmaster, Sailun & Toyo - amongst a slew of others - most I've never heard of. Domestic (US) brands can also be found. If you're not familiar with any brand - a quick Google search can bring you up to speed & look for 'Who Makes ____". Note that MOST tires are manufactured overseas, and some are manufactured here in the US. (I don't want to get into debates about this and that of where something is made, but that is your choice). Also, major manufactures may own other less known subsidiary companies - for example Michelin (a French company) owns: BFGoodrich, Kleber, Tigar, Riken, Kormoran and Uniroyal (US).

Of particular note - pay attention to items such as the Speed Rating (L-120mph or M-130 mph), Load Index Rating (148 = 6,940 lbs ea. single / 145 = 6,393 lbs ea. dual), how many Plys (H-16 or J-18 min), Warranty coverage/Life (some only go to 5-years after tire mfr, etc.) - not just the price. You'll want a tire that can carry the load of your coach at leastt to the Mfr.s' base recommendation for each position.

Then price? well, that ultimately is what you're willing to put up with paying - for all the standards you want in your tire. To add, does your Tire place include the cost for installation or testing/balancing in the price or is it extra? Any TMPS costs associated as well? Do they only install 'their tires' (the brands they carry?) or can the tires be purchased separately and dropped shipped to their store? Ask if they're OK with that.

I stopped by my local place that does RV tires and after speaking with me, quoted me a price of $759 ea. for Goodyear G4 G670 RV's + $50 intall + $15 new valve stem= $824/ea or $4,944 + tax for all six (6). I mentioned I saw online I could get a similar tire, but different brand for around $500/ea - he looked me in the eye and said "If you can get that - Go for it!"

Other, Equivalent tires for my rig I found are as follows (All Season/Highway) - your Rig's may obviously vary. (Speed/Ply) - as of 9/10/23
This G4 G670 tire is $870 online - it is rated as (L/H)
$791/ea. Goodyear Endurance RSA (L/J)
$609/ea. Firestone FS561A (L/J) - same as what the OP listed?
$498/ea. Roadmaster RM230HH (K/J)
$330/ea. Blackhawk BAR26 (M/J)
$555/ea. Hankook AH37 (L/J)
$350/ea. Fortune FAR602 (L/J)
$983/ea. Michelin X Multi Z (L/J)
$350/ea. Sailun S637 (M/J)
$620/ea. Yokohama 114R or RY103 (H/H)
Toyo's 275's as far as I can find, are mainly on/off road, heavy duty tires. They have a better selection for 255's.

As you can see - pricing is all over the place. Ultimately what you decide to get will depend on what is important to you. Some people are 'brand-driven' (i.e 'I will only every buy Firestone!), some are 'national-driven' (only American brands), etc., some are 'quality-driven'...

Hope this information helped.

[Dennis C.]

I’m shocked to see some of those prices. I replaced all my tires with Michelin X Multi Z tires earlier this year for almost $400 less per tire than the price quoted above.

[Coachie]

Originally Posted by KPAXTON

So, I'm currently in a similar situation with looking at replacing all my Tires on my Rig (ouch). We bought a used 2002 Holiday Rambler (Monaco) with 6 Goodyear's that just turned 10 years old. Ours are actually in great shape - no checking at all, no scars or deformities, plenty of tread, etc. as it was stored under cover and such & well taken care of. But even with the varying 'guidelines' of age, they need replacement.

For one, I would suggest just be prepared for the bill. Replacing tires is not an inexpensive endeavor, nor should it necessarily be the 'cheapest' - those are what ground you and help keep you safe as you're traveling. And IF you're traveling during winter - just be extremely careful and choose your travel days wisely. I also agree that putting 'winter tires' on for year round driving might turn out to be unpleasant. IF you've the money to have (2) full sets, & swap between them, then knock yourself out!

First and foremost, is figuring out what Tires you need - this should be listed on your rig (ours is right behind our drivers seat.) If not the info should be printed on your tires. Ours are Goodyear G661 HSA's (all season) - 275 / 70R22.5 - 148/145L.

Doing research online has netted me a variety of options for my size of tire - such as Atlas, GreenMax, Blackhawk, Westlake, Goodyear, Roadmaster, Sailun & Toyo - amongst a slew of others - most I've never heard of. Domestic (US) brands can also be found. If you're not familiar with any brand - a quick Google search can bring you up to speed & look for 'Who Makes ____". Note that MOST tires are manufactured overseas, and some are manufactured here in the US. (I don't want to get into debates about this and that of where something is made, but that is your choice). Also, major manufactures may own other less known subsidiary companies - for example Michelin (a French company) owns: BFGoodrich, Kleber, Tigar, Riken, Kormoran and Uniroyal (US).

Of particular note - pay attention to items such as the Speed Rating (L-120mph or M-130 mph), Load Index Rating (148 = 6,940 lbs ea. single / 145 = 6,393 lbs ea. dual), how many Plys (H-16 or J-18 min), Warranty coverage/Life (some only go to 5-years after tire mfr, etc.) - not just the price. You'll want a tire that can carry the load of your coach at leastt to the Mfr.s' base recommendation for each position.

Then price? well, that ultimately is what you're willing to put up with paying - for all the standards you want in your tire. To add, does your Tire place include the cost for installation or testing/balancing in the price or is it extra? Any TMPS costs associated as well? Do they only install 'their tires' (the brands they carry?) or can the tires be purchased separately and dropped shipped to their store? Ask if they're OK with that.

I stopped by my local place that does RV tires and after speaking with me, quoted me a price of $759 ea. for Goodyear G4 G670 RV's + $50 intall + $15 new valve stem= $824/ea or $4,944 + tax for all six (6). I mentioned I saw online I could get a similar tire, but different brand for around $500/ea - he looked me in the eye and said "If you can get that - Go for it!"

Other, Equivalent tires for my rig I found are as follows (All Season/Highway) - your Rig's may obviously vary. (Speed/Ply) - as of 9/10/23
This G4 G670 tire is $870 online - it is rated as (L/H)
$791/ea. Goodyear Endurance RSA (L/J)
$609/ea. Firestone FS561A (L/J) - same as what the OP listed?
$498/ea. Roadmaster RM230HH (K/J)
$330/ea. Blackhawk BAR26 (M/J)
$555/ea. Hankook AH37 (L/J)
$350/ea. Fortune FAR602 (L/J)
$983/ea. Michelin X Multi Z (L/J)
$350/ea. Sailun S637 (M/J)
$620/ea. Yokohama 114R or RY103 (H/H)
Toyo's 275's as far as I can find, are mainly on/off road, heavy duty tires. They have a better selection for 255's.

As you can see - pricing is all over the place. Ultimately what you decide to get will depend on what is important to you. Some people are 'brand-driven' (i.e 'I will only every buy Firestone!), some are 'national-driven' (only American brands), etc., some are 'quality-driven'...

Hope this information helped.

The Sailun S637 are the ones I just installed this spring. You will not be disappointed with the tire.

Take the money you save and spend it on your family.....

[Cat320]

Originally Posted by Traveler2162

I have been looking at Monaco coaches and everyone of them needs new tires. All aged out with 6 yrs or more.

I recently priced them and when I said I would be doing winter mountain driving he recommended

Vglory WVK Snow OS for the drive tires, << Chinese

Firestone FS591 for steer and tag
or

Roadmaster*RM832*tires* for steer and tag.

He said he puts lot of the VGlory tires on semis and dumptrucks and has no problems with them.

I also got a a quote for Toyos. Quite a bit more money.

What I don't want it problems down the road.

My advice is no Chinese and no Michelins...both have lots of problems.

When I got new tires, I got Continental on the front and Toyo on the rear.....Toyo dealer did not have any in stock that fit the front.

[dano1955]

I'm in the same boat. Getting all 6 replaced on the 18th.

I've decided on Toyo M325. A little more aggressive tread for different weather conditions. Mine are 70R22.5. Read some reviews. Price is pretty good, just a bit over $4K total with mount bead balance and disposal.

[Country Road]

Originally Posted by Traveler2162

I have been looking at Monaco coaches and everyone of them needs new tires. All aged out with 6 yrs or more.

I recently priced them and when I said I would be doing winter mountain driving he recommended

Vglory WVK Snow OS for the drive tires, << Chinese

Firestone FS591 for steer and tag
or

Roadmaster*RM832*tires* for steer and tag.

He said he puts lot of the VGlory tires on semis and dumptrucks and has no problems with them.

I also got a a quote for Toyos. Quite a bit more money.

What I don't want it problems down the road.

As almost all others have said, or at least most, you have got to think safety. Park your future coach if roads are iced. Don’t plan to drive in bad conditions. Truckers have to in order to earn a living.

Buy a good tire that affords you safety for every condition except ice and snow. Enjoy your coach you end up buying.

[TravelsTudee]

I know it's not totally the same but we put Sailuns on our 5th wheel back in 2021 and are now on our second trip cross country with them. Much better tire than the WestLakes from the manufacturer.

[moisheh]

If you are dri ing in sreas where snow is a problem just park your unit.MH's do not hanle well on snow and ice. Do you change to regular tires when out of snow areas? Where do you put those tires?

[SandiaMan]

When we purchased our current class A coach they had 11 year old Toyos 22" tires on them, it was first July of Covid when everything was crazy, owner could not get them replaced without a 3-4 week wait at the time. Owner dropped price $5K and we decided to purchase rig and drive back home through blistering record setting July Texas heat. No issues driving back nearly 1K miles, once back in Albuquerque we replaced all 6 with Toyos as they are great tires. Although we don't ever plan to drive on snow covered roads we have had occasion where early fall or late spring snow storms have come through unexpectedly and the Toyos got us home safely. Good luck on your tire search, these rigs are heavy requiring tires with solid reputations for performing under these extreme conditions.