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07-03-2022, 07:06 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Houston, Texas
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Won’t turn over - stuck at Loves Pump #20 in Dumas Texas!
Hello. I have a 2019 Tiffin Allegro Red 340 on a PowerGlide chassis. Stopped for fuel. Filled up, got back in. Tried to start it as usual. All seems normal, but the key position to turn the starter does nothing. First position lights up the panel as usual and the heater clicking sound sounds normal, but second position results in nothing. Don’t hear the solenoid engage at all. Oh, and don’t get me started on getting a tow away from the pump. Going on 3 hours and CoachNet can’t find anyone to tow me. Ugh…..so I sit.
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Tommy & Franci - Houston (Clear Lake), TX
2019 Allegro Red 340 33AL;2020 Jeep GC Limited
Part Timers-Looking Fwd to being Anytimers
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07-03-2022, 07:33 PM
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Solved!!!! While waiting over 3 hours for CoachNet, crawled under. Wire to solenoid was VERY loose. Tightened and it started right up. First break down. Not fun!!! Peace out !
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Tommy & Franci - Houston (Clear Lake), TX
2019 Allegro Red 340 33AL;2020 Jeep GC Limited
Part Timers-Looking Fwd to being Anytimers
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07-03-2022, 07:43 PM
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Location: North America somewhere
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Glad you found the problem! Owners must realize, driving a rolling earthquake on our wonderfully smooth highways shakes connections loose continually, and make inspections every time they have a down day.
I also was stranded, in an interstate rest area. I called Good Sam ERS, a truck arrived an hour later, after another 30 minutes of searching and tightening, he found a 12V supply cable retaining nut loose on the firewall terminal block that fed the dash area.
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07-04-2022, 07:27 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
Glad you found the problem! Owners must realize, driving a rolling earthquake on our wonderfully smooth highways shakes connections loose continually, and make inspections every time they have a down day.
I also was stranded, in an interstate rest area. I called Good Sam ERS, a truck arrived an hour later, after another 30 minutes of searching and tightening, he found a 12V supply cable retaining nut loose on the firewall terminal block that fed the dash area.
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So true, last summer on our return trip home from visiting our family in NE we stopped at a Charleston KOA to visit friends. Went to open the slides nothing, electric nor hydraulic didn't work. At the advice of a friend tried the G6 board extend button which opened them all up at once and it worked. But once they were open they still didn't operate so called Tiffin and I think it might've been Brett in the slide group brought me to the pack of the coach open up the G6 control load panel. He had me disconnect and reconnect several data lines and after doing a few more over the next 1/2 hr. it finally worked. He stated this is a rolling house on wheels and this is a common issue, wiring comes loose. It's a matter of finding out which one it is.
BTW OP glad you figured this out kudo's to being persistant and finding the issue. 
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07-04-2022, 07:32 AM
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Any wonders why Coach Net, et al don't respond with immediacy?
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07-04-2022, 11:03 AM
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Similar situation ; my first ( of two ) starter relay failures ; had to slide under to jump the starter solenoid , through somebody else's fuel spill .
I've since wired in an emergency start button in the engine bay. 
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07-04-2022, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
Similar situation ; my first ( of two ) starter relay failures ; had to slide under to jump the starter solenoid , through somebody else's fuel spill .
I've since wired in an emergency start button in the engine bay. |
So smart!!!
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07-04-2022, 12:32 PM
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Thankfully it was something simple, I had to change a starter in an RV park last December by the beach at Galveston.
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07-04-2022, 03:20 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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Location: Tucson AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
Similar situation ; my first ( of two ) starter relay failures ; had to slide under to jump the starter solenoid , through somebody else's fuel spill .
I've since wired in an emergency start button in the engine bay. |
Why, did your only screwdriver melt from the starting current when you jumpered the solenoid? 
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2007 Country Coach Tribute; Cat C9 400; 2012 Ford Edge toad; Roadmaster Blackhawk 2 10,000 lb tow bar; Demco AF1 Braking System; 2007 BMW K1200LT Hannigan Trike Conversion; Member, IEEE, NFPA, PMI, NRC SRO (Ret).
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07-04-2022, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Talloaks
Why, did your only screwdriver melt from the starting current when you jumpered the solenoid? |
ONLY SCREWDRIVER , 
Mostly ; didn't enjoy sliding through the diesel spill , and the fact DW wouldn't let me back into the coach without stripping .
This photo is my " rapid response " 12 volt electrical kit .
For my full tool box , I'd need a 4x8 sheet of plywood and a wide angle lens . 
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07-04-2022, 04:50 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Thank you for the update they are important for those who may do a search of the subject in the future.
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07-04-2022, 06:28 PM
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Location: Brenham, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thegats1
Solved!!!! While waiting over 3 hours for CoachNet, crawled under. Wire to solenoid was VERY loose. Tightened and it started right up. First break down. Not fun!!! Peace out !
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Oh what a relief it must have been!
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2021 Jeep 4 dr Wrangler
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07-04-2022, 07:13 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
and the fact DW wouldn't let me back into the coach without stripping .
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Gee, that must have gone over well in a truck stop !!
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07-04-2022, 07:19 PM
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Location: Powell River, B.C.
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Gee, that must have gone over well in a truck stop !! |
YA THINK ; had to do the same on the back porch at home anytime I came home smelling of diesel from work ( which was way to often ) .
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