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Old 08-12-2014, 04:32 PM   #1
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A newbie observation

We're just beginning our educational process on the B+ rv world. I've noticed two things when when examining various websites for B+ info: (1) whenever there is a sofa that folds down into a bed. there is seldom a photo of the folded-out position and (2) while the websites almost always include an image of the floor plan for their new RVs, they don't include a floor plan for the used RVs.

I'm sure some of the seasoned rv folks on the forum can straighten me out on this (which would be appreciated), but it seems that adding those two bits of info to the info on the website wouldn't be difficult and would provide valuable info to the buyer.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:30 AM   #2
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Pgustaf249,

They don't want you to see what little space there is remaining with the couch folded out.

The graphics for NEW RV's are provided by the manufacturer to the dealer. Most dealers are not going to take the time & effort to search for usable graphics for "used inventory" when it's the only one they have in stock.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:55 PM   #3
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Pgustaf249,
They don't want you to see what little space there is remaining with the couch folded out.
Agreed!
That would be like a restaurant hanging out a BAD FOOD sign.
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Here is a link from Wagon Trail RV that shows a MB model with the bed down. https://www.wagontrailrv.com/Invento...l_number=23700 . When you buy a B or B+ you are going to have to compromise. We have been across the country three times in our LTV Unity MB and the lack of space with the bed down is more that made up for the comfort of having a queen size bed to sleep in. Although we did swap the mattress for a memory foam one.
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Here is a link from Wagon Trail RV that shows a MB model with the bed down. https://www.wagontrailrv.com/Invento...l_number=23700 . When you buy a B or B+ you are going to have to compromise. We have been across the country three times in our LTV Unity MB and the lack of space with the bed down is more that made up for the comfort of having a queen size bed to sleep in. Although we did swap the mattress for a memory foam one.
What type of mattress was on it before you changed? Is memory foam the same thing that's on that Tempurpedic bed I see advertised?
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The standard mattress was a normal spring one. I just found a memory foam on Amazon by Dynasty for a good price that got good reviews. And yes it is like a Tempur-pedic. Actually, a better sleep than my mattress at home. Just be a aware that although a queen size in most Murphy beds is a short queen, meaning 60X75. I am 6'4" and it works for me.
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The standard mattress was a normal spring one. I just found a memory foam on Amazon by Dynasty for a good price that got good reviews. And yes it is like a Tempur-pedic. Actually, a better sleep than my mattress at home. Just be a aware that although a queen size in most Murphy beds is a short queen, meaning 60X75. I am 6'4" and it works for me.
Thanks for the feedback. a long time ago I was on some online forum where people were grousing about Tempurpedic. One of the things they were complaining about was that the Tempurpedic made them sweat. Does your version of memory foam give you any grief like that?
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Not that I have noticed. As the Murphy bed is in the up position all day and exposed to the outside temperature it is also insulated from the cabin heat or a/c. The only issue may be, depending on how extreme the outside temperature, you will find the mattress either very cold and hard or very warm. But with either the A/C or heat one once lowered it does return to normal. I would say the outside effect was less with the standard mattress.
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Thanks for the feedback. a long time ago I was on some online forum where people were grousing about Tempurpedic. One of the things they were complaining about was that the Tempurpedic made them sweat. Does your version of memory foam give you any grief like that?
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Interesting.
After experimenting with a small sample block of Tempurpedic foam I rejected the idea of a Tempurpedic mattress for my coach for the opposite reason.
When COLD the Tempurpedic foam becomes "rock hard' and we sometimes travel with bedroom temps of near freezing.

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Too true. We found the same true when camping in the Rockies with temps in the 20's. It was like a board when we took it down but softened up pretty quick. I think it takes a bit longer to cool down. We spent the a day at Lazy Days Tuscon in July and after baking in the sun all day the bed was quite warm when lowered and took a while to cool off. For us the comfort out weigh this issue.
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Too true. We found the same true when camping in the Rockies with temps in the 20's. It was like a board when we took it down but softened up pretty quick. I think it takes a bit longer to cool down. We spent the a day at Lazy Days Tuscon in July and after baking in the sun all day the bed was quite warm when lowered and took a while to cool off. For us the comfort out weigh this issue.
When I was reading the Tempurpedic forum I think their moan was related to the perception that the mattress seemed to smother their body, or at least the portion that was on the mattress. These folks seemed to think that the traditional spring mattress didn't smother unite so much, maybe due to a little better air circulation between the body and the mattress. I'm not sure.
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