Originally Posted by paddykern
We bought a Pleasure-Way XLMB and have been very happy with the build quality. Three years and 24,000 miles and no Pleasure-Way issues. Very few problems with the installed accessories but that is not a Pleasure-way issue. Our MH is on the 3500 MB Sprinter cutaway and have had no issues with it at all. Drives like a dream.
Suggest finding the interior plan that you like the best of the major brands and go with it. We preferred the XLMB because of no slides and Murphy bed makes the inside seem huge when stowed. The Murphy bed can keep all the bedding and pillows on when stowing away and and only take a minute to deploy when time to sleep.
The B+ C argument. When I was researching buying a B I came along a B+ and decided that was what I wanted. Searching for a class B+ got me to all the manufacturers I was looking for. So B+ classification helps to narrow an internet search down to the small, no overhang class C's I wanted to look at. Yes I know it is really a class C.
That's what the state says it's registered as a Class C... and RVIA only has 3 classes of vehicles.... there is no classification in the RVIA for a Class B+.
Some claim this is a "real Class"....in Massachusetts... it's not... the term "auto house" or auto home or house car is a broad term to describe the function of the vehicle, it is not the class registration which is a completely separate issue.
Neither California or Massachusetts specify what class these vehicles are, they are broad categories in the vehicle code handbook.
In the California vehicle code there's this definition,
Housecar (CVC §362)—A motor vehicle originally designed for, or permanently altered, to be equipped for human habitation, or to which a camper has been permanently attached. A housecar is not a motortruck.
In Massachusetts, there's this definition,
Auto Home Plates
A. Definition: Auto home, any motor vehicle originally designed or permanently
altered and equipped for human habitation which is not used to transport property
other than that property used for human habitation or camping purposes. A motor
vehicle designed primarily to transport property which has been temporarily altered
or equipped for human habitation shall not be deemed to be an auto home.
(M.G.L. ch. 90 s. 1)
Once the vehicle is registered they are assigned a particular Class based on standards..
There's a big difference between what the actual registration papers say from a few words printed on someone's license plates.
If someone can prove to me that their actual registration papers say it is a Class B+, I'll be happy to change my mind..
Let me reiterate..... there is absolutely nothing wrong with Class C's..... they are designed to carry and sleep more than 2 people.... it's not a Class B is better or worse situation...geez, people stop being so tribal about this...be happy with what you bought.... there's no point in trying to convince someone who has one vehicle or the other..... it's just a mind fudge....
As for Class B+ ( really Class C's). yes, this discussion is really more appropriate in the Class C forum in my opinion. So, when I see people getting all excited about making assertions and jumping all over this topic and are in the Class B forum and they really own a registered Class C....
Motorhome—A motor vehicle designed to provide temporary living quarters, built as an integral part of, or permanently attached to, a self-propelled motor vehicle chassis or van and includes a motorhome manufactured by a licensed motorhome manufacturer.
Van Camper—A van camper is a complete vehicle purchased from a recognized vehicle manufacturer and converted (usually by the installation of carpet, curtains, additional seating, etc.) for human habitation or camping purposes.
Van campers are registered using the original manufacturer’s make, VIN, and year model. However, completed van-type vehicles altered prior to original registration to meet the ANSI specifications of a motorhome are registered using the make and VIN of the original manufacturer.
Yes, any vehicle that is built on a cutaway chassis is not a true Class B... Class B's are vehicles that come straight from the manufacturer and are modified on the inside and not expanded out the back or the sides.
Class C's have the back end cutaway and the remainder of the RV is completely constructed as a separate box and attached to the cutaway chassis.