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05-04-2013, 07:48 PM
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Location: S.E. Michigan
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Originally Posted by longshot
went to the show and all of the models I was hoping to look at were left at their lots, ended up looking at a lot of 5th wheels and I think that's the way I'm headed, they have so much more to offer with storage and room the model I liked best was the 369RL solitude by grand design going back tomorrow to take a closer look www.granddesign.com thanks John
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Hitch weight 2600# / 39 foot 5th wheeler. That's a monster..
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05-04-2013, 08:46 PM
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#940
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern Arizona
Posts: 105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longshot
went to the show and all of the models I was hoping to look at were left at their lots, ended up looking at a lot of 5th wheels and I think that's the way I'm headed, they have so much more to offer with storage and room the model I liked best was the 369RL solitude by grand design going back tomorrow to take a closer look www.granddesign.com thanks John
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Looks like a nice rig but, as billb800si said, it's big. Plan on the pin weight being quite a bit more than the specs state. Load it to GWR and you could be looking at over 3K lbs on the pin.
Just curious, what's the sticker price on it?
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2003 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40-TGP
DW: 1969 Tucsonan in Like-New Condition
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05-05-2013, 06:23 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 7
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Western & Eastern
HI
I here people on here saying that their campers are Western made and more Eastern made can somebody tell me if their is any difference in the campers, mine will be Eastern nade i would think seeing how i am from Newfoundland, Canada
Cheers
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05-05-2013, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Enumclaw, Washington
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as far as the hitch weight I believe my Dodge 3500 will handle it, probably will install air bags though, sticker price was $74,000 show price was $62,000 and they were willing to drop another $10,000 off of that, we are giving it a lot of thought I told my DW that I can only see buying it if we sell our 7.3 excursion she doesn't know if she is ready to give it up
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05-05-2013, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern Arizona
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Originally Posted by Broadway
HI
I here people on here saying that their campers are Western made and more Eastern made can somebody tell me if their is any difference in the campers, mine will be Eastern nade i would think seeing how i am from Newfoundland, Canada
Cheers
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There shouldn't be any difference in quality or features in a West vs. East assembly plant. The real difference is the cost of delivery from the factory to the dealership. All of the Cougar 321s are made in Goshen, Indiana.
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2003 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40-TGP
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05-05-2013, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern Arizona
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Originally Posted by longshot
as far as the hitch weight I believe my Dodge 3500 will handle it, probably will install air bags though, sticker price was $74,000 show price was $62,000 and they were willing to drop another $10,000 off of that, we are giving it a lot of thought I told my DW that I can only see buying it if we sell our 7.3 excursion she doesn't know if she is ready to give it up
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Air bags are great and can help with the ride quality quite a bit. However, they do not increase the weight capacity of the truck. If you're Dodge is a dually, you should be fine but, I would do all the weight calcs just to be sure prior to purchasing anything.
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2003 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40-TGP
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05-06-2013, 08:40 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Rear Bumper
Does anyone know just how much weight if any can you carry on the rear bumper of the cougar 321, or what I can do to increase the load carrying capacity?
Thank You
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05-06-2013, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern Arizona
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Originally Posted by Broadway
Does anyone know just how much weight if any can you carry on the rear bumper of the cougar 321, or what I can do to increase the load carrying capacity?
Thank You
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We've occasionally used a cargo carrier on the rear bumper when we need to take our generator with us. The carrier is rated for 500 lbs but, I'm not comfortable putting that much weight on it. Our generator is a Yamaha 3Kw that weighs about 165 lbs. The rest of the stuff is another 50 lbs or so.
The 321 has a gross weight rating of 10K lbs so, no matter what you do, that should never be exceeded.
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2003 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40-TGP
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05-20-2013, 02:02 PM
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Longshot: We also live in Western Washington, Really rainy,. We have had our Cougar 321 since April 2012. We love it. We have not taken ours for ANY warranty work and NO leaks whatsoever. We like all the Room. We tow with a 2012 Ford 150 ecoboost, very surprising to us, DH has a CDL and we have had no problems! Because we love our 150 we got the High country, but if you have a bigger truck , you may want to look into an Open Range Unit. They are beautiful. I would have one in an instant, but the ones here were tooo heavy for us!
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05-20-2013, 02:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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So far I have one problem that I need some expert help with. I think I have read all these pages but not sure. We have had no problems with our 321, NO leaks whatsoever. I left some clothes in our Cougar HC 321RES dresser drawers and they stink! Its like a stinky wood smell or maybe wood glue?? I live in Western WA state, we keep heat in our trailer, when cold, and I also use Damp Rid.
Has anyone noticed this?I would appreciate some ideas. The drawers and divider inside are unfinished wood, would maybe a coat of paint or ???something work?
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05-21-2013, 01:29 AM
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Senior Member
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wood smell
try to find some cedar chips
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05-21-2013, 05:04 AM
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Location: Palmer, AK
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If the cedar chips do not work. See if your local rental company has a small Ozone Generator. Open up all of the drawers, cupboards, remove your clothes, and run it for 20-24 hours. They used these on our home furnishings and clothes after a fire. Worked great.. (I was advised not to go into the rooms while it was running..)
I rented one for a car once and it was about $30 for 24 hours..
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05-21-2013, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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[QUOTE=LoriBorealis;1574472]Longshot: We also live in Western Washington, Really rainy,. We have had our Cougar 321 since April 2012. We love it. We have not taken ours for ANY warranty work and NO leaks whatsoever. We like all the Room. We tow with a 2012 Ford 150 ecoboost, very surprising to us, DH has a CDL and we have had no problems! Because we love our 150 we got the High country, but if you have a bigger truck , you may want to look into an Open Range Unit. They are beautiful. I would have one in an instant, but the ones here were tooo heavy for us .
I wouldn't advise any one on the Open Range. We had the 340FLR which is a beautiful set up but our particular model was recalled because of a bad manufacturing design in the frame which caused an uncontrollable sway that totaled our truck and trailer. (Towed it with a Husky Centerline hitch setup which was suppose to stop sway  ) Trailer Life magazine tested it said it had a bad weight distribution on it because of the 4 tanks going across the back of the trailer and low tongue weight....wish we would have listened. Maybe the newer ones are better. Ours was a 2011.
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05-21-2013, 06:59 PM
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#952
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
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LoriBorealis....we also tow our 321RES with a 2010 F-150 with the towing package. Also just added the "Bully Dog" for addition power and better gas mileage. We tow with the Equalizer 4 point sway control and haven't had any problems but I don't think I'll try the mountains of Colorado  .
I wouldn't advise any one on the Open Range. We had the 340FLR which is a beautiful set up but our particular model was recalled because of a bad manufacturing design in the frame which caused an uncontrollable sway that totaled our truck and trailer. (Towed it with a Husky Centerline hitch setup which was suppose to stop sway  ) Trailer Life magazine tested it said it had a bad weight distribution on it because of the 4 tanks going across the back of the trailer and low tongue weight....wish we would have listened. Maybe the newer ones are better. Ours was a 2011.[/QUOTE]
I am so sorry to hear about your totaled truck and trailer  I fell into listening to a salesman, who said the owner had a Mesa Ridge and it towed fantastic.I inspected interior and thought it was beautiful and that is NOT an expert opinion! I am sorry that I mentioned a unit that may be sub par.
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