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06-24-2020, 10:31 AM
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Lost Headlights and marker lights - HELP
As this is likely a Ground issue - need to know where this ground wire may be?
Any Help Will be appreciated!
Diagrams or Pictures, will help as I'm an Image Guy. -
Switch has power and works to transfer it so it must be a Ground or a Common Relay (Buss)
TIA.
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
2005 Travel Supreme 42DS04 - GX470 Toad
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06-24-2020, 10:59 AM
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Could be a smartwheel controller problem, especially if you have gotten moisture in the outside electrical bay beneath your seat recently. Does horn work? That is also a symptom.
Here is a procedure for resetting the controller. The wire colors may be different as this deidn't come from a TS site. I would go with connector size. Unplug largest to smallest starting with the black plugs then the white plugs. Leave it unplugged for 10 minutes to clear all residual energy and then plug them back in reverse order: gong from small white to large black.
Here's a couple pics of the controller.
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06-24-2020, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rag_ftw
Could be a smartwheel controller problem, especially if you have gotten moisture in the outside electrical bay beneath your seat recently. Does horn work? That is also a symptom.
Here is a procedure for resetting the controller. The wire colors may be different as this deidn't come from a TS site. I would go with connector size. Unplug largest to smallest starting with the black plugs then the white plugs. Leave it unplugged for 10 minutes to clear all residual energy and then plug them back in reverse order: gong from small white to large black.
Here's a couple pics of the controller.
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Saw your note in an older post on that - will do again and leave off longe and be sure to do them in the order you suggested.
Limited internet here so will try and then post my pictures of Wiring
Thanks as always, nothing beats experience,
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
2005 Travel Supreme 42DS04 - GX470 Toad
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06-24-2020, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busskipper
Saw your note in an older post on that - will do again and leave off longe and be sure to do them in the order you suggested.
Limited internet here so will try and then post my pictures of Wiring
Thanks as always, nothing beats experience,
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Think it worked -
Unhooked everything then pulled every relay and reinserted it - 15 minutes then rehooked all the wires in reverse order -
Lights worked, as did the markers - Fingers crossed as we will pull out early tomorrow to see if we can snag a spot in the park. (Sending the toad in to be there early)
This crowd thing is for the Birds - Much rather put on a Winter coat and fight for the spaces amongst fewer people.
Thanks for the Quick Reply - Pretty Good Group in Travel Supreme,
Again,
Bill
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Location - Grasonville, Maryland - and/or - Superior, Colorado
2005 Travel Supreme 42DS04 - GX470 Toad
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06-25-2020, 06:21 AM
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Good you got it fixed.
One of my new goals in life is to know as much about these busses as you, rag-ftw andothers. Probably an improbable goal.
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06-25-2020, 08:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airboss68
Good you got it fixed.
One of my new goals in life is to know as much about these busses as you, rag-ftw andothers. Probably an improbable goal.
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Ohhh you will, you will.....
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06-25-2020, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airboss68
Good you got it fixed.
One of my new goals in life is to know as much about these busses as you, rag-ftw andothers. Probably an improbable goal.
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Think all will admit that the collective group is always better - in my case being slow To ask is my biggest regret - somewhere one of US has had the issue before.
Thanks to all,
Bill
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06-25-2020, 09:11 AM
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Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busskipper
Think it worked -
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Thanks for the Quick Reply - Pretty Good Group in Travel Supreme,
Again,
Bill
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I always do the easy stuff first! Glad it worked!
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06-25-2020, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rag_ftw
I always do the easy stuff first! Glad it worked!
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I have had to do that a couple of times fist time I was stranded on interstate till day light glad it worked for you Buskeeper
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06-25-2020, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rag_ftw
I always do the easy stuff first! Glad it worked!
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sorry I mean Busskipper
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09-18-2020, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busskipper
Think it worked -
Unhooked everything then pulled every relay and reinserted it - 15 minutes then rehooked all the wires in reverse order -
Lights worked, as did the markers - Fingers crossed as we will pull out early tomorrow to see if we can snag a spot in the park. (Sending the toad in to be there early)
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Did you also lose your running tail-lights (IE: no tails when light switch is on, but brake lights work fine)? I've got no smartwheel controls right now, thinking it's the decoder, didn't think that little box would take out my markers and tails.
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09-19-2020, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoggedOff
Did you also lose your running tail-lights (IE: no tails when light switch is on, but brake lights work fine)? I've got no smartwheel controls right now, thinking it's the decoder, didn't think that little box would take out my markers and tails.
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Lost all lights - this smart wheel appears to have lost a connection as cruise and whippers are fine.
Appears that the Board has all the relays and finding that may not be easy - mine is not a VIP but aa Spartan board - I had an issue with wiring on a burned up starter and going through all those wires to locate that issue likely played a part in mine.
I'm working on a work-around as it may be my only option.
You've been quiet for a while, hoping all is well, sounds like a great adventure - we were able to do a Summer Reunion with all the Grands and had a Ball - I finally located the White Lexus I've been searching for - what a Great Toad, thanks for all your info on that - as they are hard to find.
Best of Luck,
Bill
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