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03-03-2021, 10:46 AM
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2016 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
Hi Folks Can someone tell me if the 2016 Aspire 42RBQ has air ride suspension like the Anthem and air brakes like the Anthem, please? In looking at the brochure for them it has no mention of the Aspire having these? I'm looking at the same model and year for both but there's a significant price difference of $30,000 with mileage and options about the same. I'm trying to find out the basement storage of both as well though I think the Anthem has a 150 gal fuel tank vs. the 100 for the Aspire. So that and any other critical differences or insight on them would be appreciated. Thanks
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03-03-2021, 11:28 AM
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Yes, the Aspire has air ride and air brakes the same as the Anthem. If the Aquahot is diesel then you have the 150 Gallon tank if not you get 100 gallon fuel tank and a 50 gallon propane tank. Tire width on the Aspire is smaller than the Anthem.
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2015 Aspire 44U, 2012 Jeep, FMCA - 476557
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03-03-2021, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbhobbs54
Yes, the Aspire has air ride and air brakes the same as the Anthem. If the Aquahot is diesel then you have the 150 Gallon tank if not you get 100 gallon fuel tank and a 50 gallon propane tank. Tire width on the Aspire is smaller than the Anthem.
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Thanks I did read on the MSRP Spec sheet it does have water & heater Aqua-hot (LP) not sure how that works on this coach and not sure if yours has similar setup on your larger coach but does I take it that the Aqua-hot 400-LP is similar to the the diesel fueled model except it uses Propane instead. Which I guess is better since propane burns cleaner so there should be less to do for maintenance vs. the diesel fueled version which needs the burner cleaned and fuel filter as well as the water filter and though it would be nice to have a 150 gal fuel tank it's even better to have more storage space even though the propane tank will take up some space just not as much as the extra 50 gals of fuel I'd think. We have been looking at several DP with tags. We had found a nice 20016 Anthem 42RBQ but upon our initial walk though found lots of mice droppings though out the coach including in the dash which wasn't ideal for an all electric coach by any means. Thanks for your input appreciate it.
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2016 Tiffin Phaeton 44OH
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03-03-2021, 03:42 PM
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The Anthem now has a larger front axle. Not sure when that change happened. We have been very happy with our Aspires. This is the first time I’ve been tempted to move to an Anthem and that’s because of Valor air. I will say that the propane AquaHot is great if you are not going to spend a lot of time in cold weather. It does burn thru a lot of propane in the cold. That has been one benefit of the diesel propane. With 150 gallon tank, you can heat for a lot longer on diesel than you can with 85 gallons of propane.
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2019 Entegra Aspire 44B, 2014 G/C Summit
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03-03-2021, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmctlc
Hi Folks Can someone tell me if the 2016 Aspire 42RBQ has air ride suspension like the Anthem and air brakes like the Anthem, please? In looking at the brochure for them it has no mention of the Aspire having these? I'm looking at the same model and year for both but there's a significant price difference of $30,000 with mileage and options about the same. I'm trying to find out the basement storage of both as well though I think the Anthem has a 150 gal fuel tank vs. the 100 for the Aspire. So that and any other critical differences or insight on them would be appreciated. Thanks
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From a Chassis perspective, one of the biggest differences is, the 2016 Aspire's were built on Spartan Mountain Master raised rail chassis. The 2016 Anthems were built on the K2 Chassis. Today, this is not true, as both are built on the K2 Chassis today, but back then, this was the major difference. Which also I believe meant, Propane versus Diesel Aquahots.
So, what's the main difference between MM and K2, the MM's had a "solid front axle" versus K2's have a "Independent Front Suspension". Some say, the K2 Chassis makes a big difference, and maybe it does. I can't say as I have a 2012 built on the MM Chassis, and love it compared to my last Motorhome.
I personally like the propane version of the Aquahot. Almost no maintenance versus the Diesel model. But, the propane model means you have to carry a large propane tank which takes up storage space, were as the Diesel model allows you to keep that extra storage in the basement.
Good luck with your decision.
Cheers!
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2012 Entegra Aspire RBQ
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03-03-2021, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarleySG
From a Chassis perspective, one of the biggest differences is, the 2016 Aspire's were built on Spartan Mountain Master raised rail chassis. The 2016 Anthems were built on the K2 Chassis. Today, this is not true, as both are built on the K2 Chassis today, but back then, this was the major difference. Which also I believe meant, Propane versus Diesel Aquahots.
So, what's the main difference between MM and K2, the MM's had a "solid front axle" versus K2's have a "Independent Front Suspension". Some say, the K2 Chassis makes a big difference, and maybe it does. I can't say as I have a 2012 built on the MM Chassis, and love it compared to my last Motorhome.
I personally like the propane version of the Aquahot. Almost no maintenance versus the Diesel model. But, the propane model means you have to carry a large propane tank which takes up storage space, were as the Diesel model allows you to keep that extra storage in the basement.
Good luck with your decision.
Cheers!
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The Aspire was built on the same chassis as the anthem (K2). I think it was 2017 when the front axle changed to ISF.
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03-03-2021, 10:32 PM
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16 Aspire
We have a 15 Aspire & we have the heavier I beam axle. Propane aqua hot which we like when it works good. Looked at 16s but didn’t like the layout with the tv right behind the kitchen area.
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03-04-2021, 05:31 AM
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Thanks to everyone, we'll be heading down today and looking at the Aspire and a 2016 Tiffin Phaeton 44OH. There's a $40,000 price difference along with a different layout though equipment basically the same other than propane vs diesel Aquahot and a little longer.
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03-04-2021, 05:39 AM
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I like the Aspire.
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03-04-2021, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave&ginny
The Aspire was built on the same chassis as the anthem (K2). I think it was 2017 when the front axle changed to ISF.
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Not according to this.
https://www.entegracoach.com/motorhomes/2016/aspire/
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03-04-2021, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarleySG
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Agree according to the 2016 Brochure which I had, they both have the Spartan Mountain Master raised-rail chassis though the Anthem had Reyco Granning IFS independent front air suspension with the Hendrickson rear air suspension while the Aspire has a Front Axle I-beam wide track. Which relates back to my original question is does it have air ride suspension and brakes though I'm sure it did I just wanted confirmation which was provided. Thanks for all the input I appreciate it.
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03-04-2021, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarleySG
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My 2015 Aspire was built on the K2 chassis
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03-04-2021, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmctlc
Agree according to the 2016 Brochure which I had, they both have the Spartan Mountain Master raised-rail chassis though the Anthem had Reyco Granning IFS independent front air suspension with the Hendrickson rear air suspension while the Aspire has a Front Axle I-beam wide track. Which relates back to my original question is does it have air ride suspension and brakes though I'm sure it did I just wanted confirmation which was provided. Thanks for all the input I appreciate it.
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Yes it has the air bag suspension, disk brakes on the steer axle, ISL9 450 with the same transmission.
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03-04-2021, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave&ginny
My 2015 Aspire was built on the K2 chassis
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You were one of the luck ones.
I took the Spartan Class in 2017 and heard that there were a few that were built on K2's because they ran short on MM Chassis' during production.
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