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Old 07-14-2021, 04:10 PM   #1
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Always carry your water tanks full

If you ever wonder why you should drive with your water tank full and always carry several gallons of fresh anti freeze theme here is why.

When driving today in Indiana 71 miles from our destination I was zipping along in the second lane and out of the blue the check engine light came on, 2 seconds later the high temperature light came on then the stop engine light. Fun times. Luckily I had just got away from all the narrow roads and construction so I immediately hung and right and got way off the side of the road. You would have loved to look on the car drivers faces as I moved over.

So I pull over and open the engine compartment and no coolant anywhere. Everything is bone dry. Let’s see if any of you can guess where all the coolant went?

Wrong guess

On the back of the aquahot there are 2 coolant lines that run for the engine. One of the cheap plastic barbed fittings that connect the 3/4 to 1/2” lines broke and the coolant went all in the bay. Boy was that fun cleaning up.

Since I carry about every fitting known to man and plenty of hose clamps I was able to quickly get in the bay and fix the issue. When I figured out the problem I had to change into my crappy clothes to keep the wife happy before I crawled into the bay on my belly and fixed the issue.

When the hose broke every once of coolant came out so I had to pump in coolant and water to get on the road again.

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Old 07-14-2021, 04:47 PM   #2
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Just curious and it probably doesn’t make any difference, but Spartan or Frieghtliner? I carry a lot of stuff too but never considered this one- have to check my inventory now....

Nice roadside save. Most folks would have been on the hook...literally
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If you ever wonder why you should drive with your water tank full and always carry several gallons of fresh anti freeze theme here is why.

When driving today in Indiana 71 miles from our destination I was zipping along in the second lane and out of the blue the check engine light came on, 2 seconds later the high temperature light came on then the stop engine light. Fun times. Luckily I had just got away from all the narrow roads and construction so I immediately hung and right and got way off the side of the road. You would have loved to look on the car drivers faces as I moved over.

So I pull over and open the engine compartment and no coolant anywhere. Everything is bone dry. Let’s see if any of you can guess where all the coolant went?

Wrong guess

On the back of the aquahot there are 2 coolant lines that run for the engine. One of the cheap plastic barbed fittings that connect the 3/4 to 1/2” lines broke and the coolant went all in the bay. Boy was that fun cleaning up.

Since I carry about every fitting known to man and plenty of hose clamps I was able to quickly get in the bay and fix the issue. When I figured out the problem I had to change into my crappy clothes to keep the wife happy before I crawled into the bay on my belly and fixed the issue.

When the hose broke every once of coolant came out so I had to pump in coolant and water to get on the road again.

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Coach info please....Thank you for the heads up!
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:00 PM   #4
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If I remember correctly the 2013-2015 coaches had issues with those clamps coming loose. They need to be replaced with constant tension clamps. Lots of discussion back in 2014-2015 about the need for new clamps. I believe Entegra started using the correct hose clamps after that. I'll see if I can find some links to the discussions.

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Good job! Pure water would have gotten you back on the road, but it’s nice that you had some coolant to mix in. I travel with 1/2 to full tank of water depending on our destination, 2 gallons of antifreeze, 2 gallons of oil, fuel filters, hose clamps and lots of tools.
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A 3/8 drive deep socket will connect two heater hoses together in a pinch.
Great roadside save right there. Nice Work!
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Phil, sure sorry to hear that. You just reminded me, on the 14's we changed those clamps to constant tension clamps, and IIRC there was a recall on the factory clamps. It has been so long I have forgotten about those......good reminder to check the clamps on the new coach. Thanks for the heads up.
Also on traveling with full water or close to it. We also had the need when our engine air compressor blew taking out the power steering pump and other items. Towed into Cummins on a rainy Friday night and spent 3 nights in the coach before they opened on Monday. Thankfully we had close to a full tank of water.
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Gee, I almost always make sure I have a full tank of fresh water before I depart any campground. You never know where you are going to end up being, or how long you are going to be there. The coach is already 25 tons……. What is a few more pounds due to 100 gallons of water going to do to fuel mileage…. And it makes the coach hold the road better on turns.

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Very similar incident in our previous Monaco. While driving, low coolant light and temp light came on at the same time. Engine shut down. When I stepped out of the coach coolant was puking out all over the road right behind the passenger steer tire. Turns out the recirc pump for the engine block heater(all part of the aquahot system) cracked and started leaking all the coolant. So, we bypassed the pump, filled up with water from our fresh water tank to get home. Replaced the pump, flushed the system and filled with coolant again. To this day, we travel with an almost full fresh water tank in case we need to refill our radiator. :-)
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OP has a 2013 which makes me I wonder if those plastic fittings are getting brittle with age and heat.?

Another temporary solution to one of those lines breaking is to find the shutoff valves on the engine. On the 600 there are two yellow handled ball valves. Hard to see them on the side of the motor but they are there. I would assume that the 450 has them also.
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So, I know that comment is counter intuitive, but I can always be counted on to stick my foot in my mouth..

Given I live in Texas where we wont have another 100 year freeze (like we just had) I am thinking about shutting those 2 valves to close the circulation loop from the engine. That the preheat engine water loop and yes I know I would then loose my free heated water at the end of the day. Come fall turn handles back on. I think this is the second or third time in the last 2 years I have read about this happening. Any other thought would be welcomed..
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Nice save ... most of us would have had to be towed ....
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Thanks for sharing.
I do travel with water tank near full.
But I do not have hose fittings or clamps. I just ordered an assortment of clamps and fittings to include a 3/4 to 1/2.

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Yep, been there done that. I think the 450 has 2 shut off valves down low on the engine, driver side. I had a carpet cleaner with a truck mounted unit suck all the coolant out of the basement and rinse it.
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